I just stumbled upon this tonight regarding Rex not being a 1st round prospect. The full article is worth reading if you're interested. They had Grossman pegged pretty accurately. I post it now because we are probably going to draft a QB this year to be our franchise QB again. The article makes you think about the dangers of reaching for a QB in the 1st round like this again... just because we feel we need a QB.
LINK "He says Grossman might have had a chance to go late in the first round last year, but now has fallen to the late second or early part of the third round... ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. agrees. "Rex was a possible first-round pick, and now he's probably not in my mind a first-rounder," Kiper said. "How far he drops depends on how well he finishes." Kiper also said you could argue Grossman "has been exposed as a product of the [Spurrier] system."
The Bears had two 1st round picks that year. But it was (truly was) a bad year for QBs. We spent our two 1st round picks on Michael Haynes and Grossman. Haynes never made a regular season roster after we cut him after 3 seasons.
We did get Peanut and Lance Briggs in that draft in the 2nd and 3rd rounds though. Pretty good value for those two.
Both picks are tales in caution, some seem to think def can be non misses, and Hayes most definitely was a miss.
Rex is more complicated in that he started playing scared after several injuries. His game wasn't terrible early and you could see why the team wanted to see how he developed. Where they made a mistake, much like Cutler, they refused to ever bring in any legit competition for him. People will point to Brees, but he didn't want to play here, by all reports it was NO's or Miami(i think it was miami). But Warner had wanted to play here and only asked to be able to compete and they refused.
back on track though, of the 2 first round picks, Rex was a far better pick, and was a far safer pick. Inj's hampered his career, and per usual Kiper was wrong on where he should have went.
Both picks are tales in caution, some seem to think def can be non misses, and Hayes most definitely was a miss.
Rex is more complicated in that he started playing scared after several injuries. His game wasn't terrible early and you could see why the team wanted to see how he developed. Where they made a mistake, much like Cutler, they refused to ever bring in any legit competition for him. People will point to Brees, but he didn't want to play here, by all reports it was NO's or Miami(i think it was miami). But Warner had wanted to play here and only asked to be able to compete and they refused.
back on track though, of the 2 first round picks, Rex was a far better pick, and was a far safer pick. Inj's hampered his career, and per usual Kiper was wrong on where he should have went.
That's because our coaches were so good they already knew that Warner sucked and did not need a chance to compete. It is the coaches that decide who plays and so have a huge influence on the game. The talent is determined by the GB and coaches
Both picks are tales in caution, some seem to think def can be non misses, and Hayes most definitely was a miss.
Rex is more complicated in that he started playing scared after several injuries. His game wasn't terrible early and you could see why the team wanted to see how he developed. Where they made a mistake, much like Cutler, they refused to ever bring in any legit competition for him. People will point to Brees, but he didn't want to play here, by all reports it was NO's or Miami(i think it was miami). But Warner had wanted to play here and only asked to be able to compete and they refused.
back on track though, of the 2 first round picks, Rex was a far better pick, and was a far safer pick. Inj's hampered his career, and per usual Kiper was wrong on where he should have went.
That's because our coaches were so good they already knew that Warner sucked and did not need a chance to compete. It is the coaches that decide who plays and so have a huge influence on the game. The talent is determined by the GB and coaches
Both picks are tales in caution, some seem to think def can be non misses, and Hayes most definitely was a miss.
Rex is more complicated in that he started playing scared after several injuries. His game wasn't terrible early and you could see why the team wanted to see how he developed. Where they made a mistake, much like Cutler, they refused to ever bring in any legit competition for him. People will point to Brees, but he didn't want to play here, by all reports it was NO's or Miami(i think it was miami). But Warner had wanted to play here and only asked to be able to compete and they refused.
back on track though, of the 2 first round picks, Rex was a far better pick, and was a far safer pick. Inj's hampered his career, and per usual Kiper was wrong on where he should have went.
At first I honestly thought Rex was the guy we'd been waiting for. But my memory is what you describe. That after injuries he wasn't the same guy.
That's because our coaches were so good they already knew that Warner sucked and did not need a chance to compete. It is the coaches that decide who plays and so have a huge influence on the game. The talent is determined by the GB and coaches
Coaches really have no say in FA, that's the GM.
you really believe that the GM does not take input from the coaches as to whether a player will fit his scheme? Seriously? I think you are taking the whole coaches don't matter thing too far.
you really believe that the GM does not take input from the coaches as to whether a player will fit his scheme? Seriously? I think you are taking the whole coaches don't matter thing too far.
1 dependson the GM and HC, I seriously do not believe Emery took any information from Trestman. I think Angelo was largely in charge of the roster until after the SB.
In this situation I think when a player reaches out to a team about wanting to join, it's likely not going to reach the HC if the GM has no interest.
you really believe that the GM does not take input from the coaches as to whether a player will fit his scheme? Seriously? I think you are taking the whole coaches don't matter thing too far.
1 dependson the GM and HC, I seriously do not believe Emery took any information from Trestman. I think Angelo was largely in charge of the roster until after the SB.
In this situation I think when a player reaches out to a team about wanting to join, it's likely not going to reach the HC if the GM has no interest.
You don't think the GM would ask the coach "This kid wants to be a Bear. Is this someone you want?" That does not mean that the HC makes the decision, but it does allow him to tell the GM if he thinks the kid can help the team. Most places that have a healthy management structure would want to know if the guy that is going to be brought on board is wanted by the guy that he will be actually working for.
1 dependson the GM and HC, I seriously do not believe Emery took any information from Trestman. I think Angelo was largely in charge of the roster until after the SB.
In this situation I think when a player reaches out to a team about wanting to join, it's likely not going to reach the HC if the GM has no interest.
You don't think the GM would ask the coach "This kid wants to be a Bear. Is this someone you want?" That does not mean that the HC makes the decision, but it does allow him to tell the GM if he thinks the kid can help the team. Most places that have a healthy management structure would want to know if the guy that is going to be brought on board is wanted by the guy that he will be actually working for.
BIH, are you watching the Senior Bowl by chance? John Fox just iced his own kicker by calling a time out. The announcers are having a field day. Maybe he didn't realize it was his team kicking the FG. The Logg and Foxy are shazzamming the people.
EDIT: It was the other team's kicker. I thought that was pretty crazy even for Fox.