Well it's often attributed to him but if you'll tell me who I should more properly attribute it too I'll be happy to make the needed correction for you.
So what does this have to do with the thread topic itself he asks?
While on one hand I agree with you this is exactly what Teddy Bears and the McCaskeys count on every year. The team sells out it's seats and corporate partners buy those the season ticket holders don't so they use years and years of fan loyalty and hoped for apathy to get one more year behind them.
My griping won't change a thing but for me it makes me feel better that I do voice it and not just shrug and accept it. I'm 1000 miles away anyway so my impact is non-existent. But for those of you who are not all I can say is if you let them get away with doing this as they always have then it's all they will keep doing and all you will ever get.
Welcome to the NFL version of the former Chicago Cubs.
Nothing wrong with griping. I go back and forth too. The injury level this year makes is hard for me to assess just how good or bad the overall coaching is. I know you don't agree with me on that one, and you could be right and I could be wrong. But I do believe this level of injuries hurt what the coaches can do. My gut feeling is that Fox is probably a Lovie Smith level coach.
I don't believe it has no impact just not a much as some feel it does and even the coaches aren't relying to heavily on that excuse because it flies completely in the face of that "next man up" theory Fox use to quote but has now dropped since he'd look even more foolish if he did. Few stepped up.
If you and others believe as I do that we could have and even should have been 8-8 in 2015 but a couple of missed FG and a couple of late game defensive breakdowns lost us two more games then at least 8-8 this year should also have been attainable at the very least. Many even forecast that while I was initially a game or two more optimistic.
So if we lost a couple more than that due to injury I'm sure we wouldn't be having some of the debates we are. But that isn't what happened and I feel and others do as well there were at least two games lost by poor game and clock management by Fox.
It's also possible at least one of those earlier games might have been salvaged with a better running game and some in game adjustments that never came. Once they knew Loggains had abandoned the run it was like shooting fish in a barrel for their pass rushers and blizters and we couldn't adjust and pick those up either.
So I blame that on very poor pregame scheming and preparation which is what coaches do. The players need that because in a sense they're somewhat like human robots who need to be programmed with a game plan each game and then reprogrammed as the game progresses.
That wasn't done and while it's not all on Fox in this case the shit runs uphill because he's in charge of all that and it didn't get done. So now we sit on the verge of the only 13 loss season "WE'VE" had since the NFL went to 16 games but that's not such a big deal for Fox because he's lost 14 before.
Of course it did cost him his job and it should surely cost him his job again since he has the second worst HC record in Bears history but apparently it won't so I'm simply gonna ask to be excused from the optimists side of the board and stay on the realists side. Frankly I don't see how he could do any worse so I guess you all have that going for you.
Nothing wrong with griping. I go back and forth too. The injury level this year makes is hard for me to assess just how good or bad the overall coaching is. I know you don't agree with me on that one, and you could be right and I could be wrong. But I do believe this level of injuries hurt what the coaches can do. My gut feeling is that Fox is probably a Lovie Smith level coach.
I don't believe it has no impact just not a much as some feel it does and even the coaches aren't relying to heavily on that excuse because it flies completely in the face of that "next man up" theory Fox use to quote but has now dropped since he'd look even more foolish if he did. Few stepped up.
If you and others believe as I do that we could have and even should have been 8-8 in 2015 but a couple of missed FG and a couple of late game defensive breakdowns lost us two more games then at least 8-8 this year should also have been attainable at the very least. Many even forecast that while I was initially a game or two more optimistic.
So if we lost a couple more than that due to injury I'm sure we wouldn't be having some of the debates we are. But that isn't what happened and I feel and others do as well there were at least two games lost by poor game and clock management by Fox.
It's also possible at least one of those earlier games might have been salvaged with a better running game and some in game adjustments that never came. Once they knew Loggains had abandoned the run it was like shooting fish in a barrel for their pass rushers and blizters and we couldn't adjust and pick those up either.
So I blame that on very poor pregame scheming and preparation which is what coaches do. The players need that because in a sense they're somewhat like human robots who need to be programmed with a game plan each game and then reprogrammed as the game progresses.
That wasn't done and while it's not all on Fox in this case the shit runs uphill because he's in charge of all that and it didn't get done. So now we sit on the verge of the only 13 loss season "WE'VE" had since the NFL went to 16 games but that's not such a big deal for Fox because he's lost 14 before.
Of course it did cost him his job and it should surely cost him his job again since he has the second worst HC record in Bears history but apparently it won't so I'm simply gonna ask to be excused from the optimists side of the board and stay on the realists side. Frankly I don't see how he could do any worse so I guess you all have that going for you.
If nothing else it will give us something to argue about back-and-forth over the off season. My gut feeling on Fox though, is that he is a Lovie Smith level coach. We may get better next season, but Fox is not an upgrade over Smith. He's the same caliber of coach. They both got teams to the SB. But neither are great coaches.
The boring winter off-season is about to be upon us. Good time of the year for checkers :-)
Well it's often attributed to him but if you'll tell me who I should more properly attribute it too I'll be happy to make the needed correction for you.
So what does this have to do with the thread topic itself he asks?
"Albert Einstein Someone, but not Albert Einstein, is credited with defining insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results each time."
I wasn't even my quote but there, I fixed it. So are we good now? LOL
I don't believe it has no impact just not a much as some feel it does and even the coaches aren't relying to heavily on that excuse because it flies completely in the face of that "next man up" theory Fox use to quote but has now dropped since he'd look even more foolish if he did. Few stepped up.
If you and others believe as I do that we could have and even should have been 8-8 in 2015 but a couple of missed FG and a couple of late game defensive breakdowns lost us two more games then at least 8-8 this year should also have been attainable at the very least. Many even forecast that while I was initially a game or two more optimistic.
So if we lost a couple more than that due to injury I'm sure we wouldn't be having some of the debates we are. But that isn't what happened and I feel and others do as well there were at least two games lost by poor game and clock management by Fox.
It's also possible at least one of those earlier games might have been salvaged with a better running game and some in game adjustments that never came. Once they knew Loggains had abandoned the run it was like shooting fish in a barrel for their pass rushers and blizters and we couldn't adjust and pick those up either.
So I blame that on very poor pregame scheming and preparation which is what coaches do. The players need that because in a sense they're somewhat like human robots who need to be programmed with a game plan each game and then reprogrammed as the game progresses.
That wasn't done and while it's not all on Fox in this case the shit runs uphill because he's in charge of all that and it didn't get done. So now we sit on the verge of the only 13 loss season "WE'VE" had since the NFL went to 16 games but that's not such a big deal for Fox because he's lost 14 before.
Of course it did cost him his job and it should surely cost him his job again since he has the second worst HC record in Bears history but apparently it won't so I'm simply gonna ask to be excused from the optimists side of the board and stay on the realists side. Frankly I don't see how he could do any worse so I guess you all have that going for you.
If nothing else it will give us something to argue about back-and-forth over the off season. My gut feeling on Fox though, is that he is a Lovie Smith level coach. We may get better next season, but Fox is not an upgrade over Smith. He's the same caliber of coach. They both got teams to the SB. But neither are great coaches.
Agreed. I said in another post that I'm feeling that hiring Fox was a bit like the McCaskeys feeling the needed to recover that warm fuzzy kind of non-controversial way it all worked when Lovie was HC and GM JA was smart enough to understand how not to buck the tide.
Then Emery came along and kicked the crap out of all that by firing Lovie and hiring Tucker and Trestman who hired Kromer who shot his mouth off to the media about Cutler and started that ruckus and the McCaskeys hate a ruckus because then they have to come out of hiding and fix it. They prefer not to do that.
So.....this has become their fix and while it's not working on the field it's relatively ruckus free now that Fox got rid of those who Emery brought in who usually created the ruckus and for the McCaskeys that's good enough for now and they probably won't risk a change until absolutely forced to. It's become a comfortable habit for them.
What I still don't get though is especially after Emery, who was a Teddy Bears choice and hire, how they can leave that assclown in charge of this team. Other than as guardian of the vault it makes no strategic or logical sense operationally. It's like hiring a backhoe operator to fly a 767. So if you want to know who and what pisses me off even more than Fox....you have your answer.
This is what I feel like as a Bears fan watching how this team is run each year.
People are going to talk all offseason about the # of players on IR, and I'm going to wonder how many really needed to be there. And how much of that was done to press home how much of a problem the injuries were.
It's an excellent question and one I'd love to have some answers to. How many are malingering? How many more Kyle Fullers might there be?
I sure seems odd to me how many pressed AJ on this last year and there was talk about how he no longer wanted to play in Chicago and so on so on so forth to the point of making him Bears fans Public Enemy #1 at times. It was all on him.
This year there's no talk of anything like that so what's up "buttercups". Was AJ really hurting last year or merely malingering to protect his career and whose doing what this year? I don't hear any bad talk about it all I hear is it being used as an excuse by all who feel they can get some acceptance for that.
What's odd though is I hear it more from certain fans than from the coaches themselves who actually seem to know better because it's a pretty flimsy excuse for losing THIS MUCH THIS OFTEN.
That's the thing, Goldman had a bum ankle did he need surgery? He hasn't had it from anything I've read, so how is a bad was it? Fuller was basically a healthy scratch, how many more were like that? I'm betting at least 4 or 5 more. Hurt but not your normal IR issues.
It's an excellent question and one I'd love to have some answers to. How many are malingering? How many more Kyle Fullers might there be?
I sure seems odd to me how many pressed AJ on this last year and there was talk about how he no longer wanted to play in Chicago and so on so on so forth to the point of making him Bears fans Public Enemy #1 at times. It was all on him.
This year there's no talk of anything like that so what's up "buttercups". Was AJ really hurting last year or merely malingering to protect his career and whose doing what this year? I don't hear any bad talk about it all I hear is it being used as an excuse by all who feel they can get some acceptance for that.
What's odd though is I hear it more from certain fans than from the coaches themselves who actually seem to know better because it's a pretty flimsy excuse for losing THIS MUCH THIS OFTEN.
That's the thing, Goldman had a bum ankle did he need surgery? He hasn't had it from anything I've read, so how is a bad was it? Fuller was basically a healthy scratch, how many more were like that? I'm betting at least 4 or 5 more. Hurt but not your normal IR issues.
Fox was very forthright in letting us know that in medical terms they were classified as "owies"
Fox is allowed back due to his reputation, experience and question marks due to injuries.
Pace gets another cycle to bolster the roster with talent.
Fox gets another shot at showing he can get an improved roster to perform (maybe he does and the next items on the list are moot points).
Pace, assuming his draft this year and his FA acquisitions this year pan out, retains overall good standing with the org AND, in the event Fox starts to stumble, now has time to research and unanimous desire to replace Fox with a new HC.
Coaches, seeing the talent on the Bears, WANT to coach the team.
In this event the new HC comes onto a team with much better talent (four cycles of Pace drafts and FA acquisitions) and is much better positioned to turn things around and be successful.
And then we hire Jim Harbaugh? I know it's probably not going to happen, but one can hope.
Fox is allowed back due to his reputation, experience and question marks due to injuries.
Pace gets another cycle to bolster the roster with talent.
Fox gets another shot at showing he can get an improved roster to perform (maybe he does and the next items on the list are moot points).
Pace, assuming his draft this year and his FA acquisitions this year pan out, retains overall good standing with the org AND, in the event Fox starts to stumble, now has time to research and unanimous desire to replace Fox with a new HC.
Coaches, seeing the talent on the Bears, WANT to coach the team.
In this event the new HC comes onto a team with much better talent (four cycles of Pace drafts and FA acquisitions) and is much better positioned to turn things around and be successful.
And then we hire Jim Harbaugh? I know it's probably not going to happen, but one can hope.
That's the thing, Goldman had a bum ankle did he need surgery? He hasn't had it from anything I've read, so how is a bad was it? Fuller was basically a healthy scratch, how many more were like that? I'm betting at least 4 or 5 more. Hurt but not your normal IR issues.
Fox was very forthright in letting us know that in medical terms they were classified as "owies"
We got a lotta guys with owies then. Big owies and little owies.
You know when I hear a player like Fuller say he's just not right I'm tempted to ask what part isn't right. Your knee, your head, or your heart. How are we ever gonna rebuild a team with some of these pussy's we have?