Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball?

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 14:57:08 GMT -6 davidl likes this

Post by GrizzlyBear on Nov 10, 2024 14:57:08 GMT -6

My God, that was painful to watch.

A complete fail top to bottom. But as I've said in another thread, the main problem isn't Coach Eberflus, it's Poles. This is his team.

He's the one who decided not to fix the damn OL in FA and to waste the ninth pick overall on a receiver we absolutely didn't need.

You can't expect any HC and QB to succeed when you don't have a line. Period.

People need to stop giving Poles credit for trading for Moore and drafting Williams. He's the main problem.

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:15:15 GMT -6 AlexM, shark86, and 2 more like this

Post by bearsinhouston on Nov 10, 2024 15:15:15 GMT -6

Nov 10, 2024 14:57:08 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

My God, that was painful to watch.

A complete fail top to bottom. But as I've said in another thread, the main problem isn't Coach Eberflus, it's Poles. This is his team.

He's the one who decided not to fix the damn OL in FA and to waste the ninth pick overall on a receiver we absolutely didn't need.

You can't expect any HC and QB to succeed when you don't have a line. Period.

People need to stop giving Poles credit for trading for Moore and drafting Williams. He's the main problem.

Grizz, I understand the frustration. I really do. Hell.... I share it. But I still support the Rome pick. What he failed to do is get a real coach. This team has talent. Even without a good OL, we should be able to move the ball better than we are with this talent.

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:16:35 GMT -6 AlexM likes this

Post by MartianBearsFan on Nov 10, 2024 15:16:35 GMT -6

Poles, Flus, and Waldron

Poles should have fixed the OL while drafting the new QB and hiring Flus
Flus should be fired after today's game but it won't happen. I just don't know who will be the interim head coach
Waldron should be fired as well but it won't happen.

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:23:36 GMT -6

Post by davidl on Nov 10, 2024 15:23:36 GMT -6

Nov 10, 2024 14:57:08 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

My God, that was painful to watch.

A complete fail top to bottom. But as I've said in another thread, the main problem isn't Coach Eberflus, it's Poles. This is his team.

He's the one who decided not to fix the damn OL in FA and to waste the ninth pick overall on a receiver we absolutely didn't need.

You can't expect any HC and QB to succeed when you don't have a line. Period.

People need to stop giving Poles credit for trading for Moore and drafting Williams. He's the main problem.

Welcome to the club. There are three members now.

You, me, and Ric.

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motm All-Pro Posts: 4,272 Likes: 2,007	Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:29:50 GMT -6 Post by motm on Nov 10, 2024 15:29:50 GMT -6 Poles needs to be fired after this season. He failed as a GM. Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Post by bearsfaninaz on Nov 10, 2024 15:35:48 GMT -6

My vote went to Poles. He put this team and staff together. They should've moved on from Eberflus last season. They will definitely move on from him this season of not this week. Lost year for everyone on the team. Poles needs to go as well.

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:39:01 GMT -6 via mobile AlexM, MartianBearsFan, and 1 more like this

Post by shortfacedbear on Nov 10, 2024 15:39:01 GMT -6

This will never get better until the team is sold. The culture, the decisions of coach, GM, president. All of it. You can't have a team owned by a 101 year old woman with relatives.

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:39:56 GMT -6

Post by davidl on Nov 10, 2024 15:39:56 GMT -6

Nov 10, 2024 15:15:15 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Nov 10, 2024 14:57:08 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

My God, that was painful to watch.

A complete fail top to bottom. But as I've said in another thread, the main problem isn't Coach Eberflus, it's Poles. This is his team.

He's the one who decided not to fix the damn OL in FA and to waste the ninth pick overall on a receiver we absolutely didn't need.

You can't expect any HC and QB to succeed when you don't have a line. Period.

People need to stop giving Poles credit for trading for Moore and drafting Williams. He's the main problem.

Grizz, I understand the frustration. I really do. Hell.... I share it. But I still support the Rome pick. What he failed to do is get a real coach. This team has talent. Even without a good OL, we should be able to move the ball better than we are with this talent.

Williams is not totally innocent, either. Bad OL and bad coaching are messing him up for sure. But he’s also holding the ball and missing throws that should be easy completions.

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Pats beat Bears - who gets the deflated ball? Nov 10, 2024 15:43:35 GMT -6 shark86, MartianBearsFan, and 1 more like this

Post by mpbears68 on Nov 10, 2024 15:43:35 GMT -6

Nov 10, 2024 15:15:15 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Nov 10, 2024 14:57:08 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

My God, that was painful to watch.

A complete fail top to bottom. But as I've said in another thread, the main problem isn't Coach Eberflus, it's Poles. This is his team.

He's the one who decided not to fix the damn OL in FA and to waste the ninth pick overall on a receiver we absolutely didn't need.

You can't expect any HC and QB to succeed when you don't have a line. Period.

People need to stop giving Poles credit for trading for Moore and drafting Williams. He's the main problem.

Grizz, I understand the frustration. I really do. Hell.... I share it. But I still support the Rome pick. What he failed to do is get a real coach. This team has talent. Even without a good OL, we should be able to move the ball better than we are with this talent.

Correct!

I'm gonna take one more shot at this because I know all of us are frustrated.

Poles hired Flus. Poles stuck with Flus last offseason. The former decision I can forgive as you could easily assume he was a bridge hire for a teardown and early rebuild. The latter decision is unforgiveable however IMO. I'm not gonna even mention Harbaugh cuz regardless it was inexcusable to pair Flus/Wal with a new #1 pick rookie QB.

Poles also has whiffed badly on the OL. Davis was a disastrous signing. Patrick and Bates gave you virtually no value. Even Darnell Wright and Brax, your only successes in the draft, haven't exactly been world beaters. I still don't understand why Poles didn't go all-in on OL in FA last March when he had plenty of money.

So YES, I am NOT GIVING POLES A PASS here. What I am doing is recognizing the obvious that some here won't--GMs usually get at least 2 HC hires and they don't get fired after only 1 season of a new QB pick.

THAT'S JUST THE REALITY HERE, GUYS. Poles is not gonna get fired now or this offseason. So lets just drop it. His seat isn't going to be getting warm yet. He has a lot more runway than Flus and Waldron do.

Getting back to what actually needs to happen right now, Flus and Waldron need to be fired tomorrow. Don't care if mid-season firings "aren't something we do", doesn't matter. This needs to happen now.

The season is over. There's virtually zero chance of finishing above 500 much less making a wildcard. Its all about not wrecking CW any more than you already have the remaining 8 games. Flus and Wal are clearly not the guys you are gonna keep for 2025 and they are wrecking the QB right before our eyes. Fire them right now.

Make Hightower the interim HC and designate a new interim OC. This is an easy decision at this point. Move on and just try to get some semblance of an offense going the next two months even if you go 1-5. You can't continue on the path you are on.

Make a move tonight or tomorrow.

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