Poles said "it's time to win" back in August. 7 or 8 wins would be a major disappointment. Even 9 isn't that impressive. Remember we had a powder-puff schedule the first 9 games. We really played only 2 good teams and most of the other 7 were all bottom feeders. Carolina, New England, Tennessee, and Jacksonville are quite literally 4 of the worst teams in the league this season.
Regardless of wins, I don't see how the current coaching regime survives unless the Caleb Williams trajectory makes a major upswing here soon. Jaden Daniels is blowing him away and doing so with far inferior weapons. Flus/Waldron MAIN JOB this season is setting CW up for success going forward and right now they are failing at that big time.
Daniels has 88 pff grade and Williams 61 pff. If this continues and Daniels wins Offensive Rookie of the Year, people will question whether Poles draft the wrong QB, after passing on CJ Stroud last year. Almost everyone here except Ric and I think Poles is a genius GM. It’s not coaches fault for all the overthrow passes, especially deep throws.
If the Bears somehow lose this Pats game, Waldron will be fired next week.
Don't think anyone is saying Poles is a genius. Just that he has accomplished a great deal to be optimistic about. I posted earlier this week in detail about how he hasn't been successful yet on the OL and how much I hated the decision last offseason stick with Flus rather than go all-out to get Harbaugh.
Daniels is off to a great start I agree. But he isn't gonna last. The guy is too skinny to survive long-term IMO. Kingsbury also has a rep for hot starts that fade over time as DCs adapt to him. We shall see.
I do agree completely that Waldron could/should be fired ASAP and Flus is gonna have no choice if they lose Sunday.
Daniels has 88 pff grade and Williams 61 pff. If this continues and Daniels wins Offensive Rookie of the Year, people will question whether Poles draft the wrong QB, after passing on CJ Stroud last year. Almost everyone here except Ric and I think Poles is a genius GM. It’s not coaches fault for all the overthrow passes, especially deep throws.
If the Bears somehow lose this Pats game, Waldron will be fired next week.
Don't think anyone is saying Poles is a genius. Just that he has accomplished a great deal to be optimistic about. I posted earlier this week in detail about how he hasn't been successful yet on the OL and how much I hated the decision last offseason stick with Flus rather than go all-out to get Harbaugh.
Daniels is off to a great start I agree. But he isn't gonna last. The guy is too skinny to survive long-term IMO. Kingsbury also has a rep for hot starts that fade over time as DCs adapt to him. We shall see.
I do agree completely that Waldron could/should be fired ASAP and Flus is gonna have no choice if they lose Sunday.
There is a really good chance Waldron will be gone. Poles may keep Flus and so it HAS to be someones fault. So it will be Waldron and only Waldron. Until next year when the same crap happens.
Don't think anyone is saying Poles is a genius. Just that he has accomplished a great deal to be optimistic about. I posted earlier this week in detail about how he hasn't been successful yet on the OL and how much I hated the decision last offseason stick with Flus rather than go all-out to get Harbaugh.
Daniels is off to a great start I agree. But he isn't gonna last. The guy is too skinny to survive long-term IMO. Kingsbury also has a rep for hot starts that fade over time as DCs adapt to him. We shall see.
I do agree completely that Waldron could/should be fired ASAP and Flus is gonna have no choice if they lose Sunday.
There is a really good chance Waldron will be gone. Poles may keep Flus and so it HAS to be someones fault. So it will be Waldron and only Waldron. Until next year when the same crap happens.
You're not suggesting that the Bears will make another bad OC hire, are you?
Yeah, there's zero reason to believe they won't chose the wrong guy yet again.
There is a really good chance Waldron will be gone. Poles may keep Flus and so it HAS to be someones fault. So it will be Waldron and only Waldron. Until next year when the same crap happens.
You're not suggesting that the Bears will make another bad OC hire, are you?
Yeah, there's zero reason to believe they won't chose the wrong guy yet again.
If they don't fire Flus I can garantee it. He'll be on a one year deal cuz everybody and their sister will know Flus is gone the next year, and no quality OC is gonna come here for that - Unless we guarantee he's the HC next year....
Daniels has 88 pff grade and Williams 61 pff. If this continues and Daniels wins Offensive Rookie of the Year, people will question whether Poles draft the wrong QB, after passing on CJ Stroud last year. Almost everyone here except Ric and I think Poles is a genius GM. It’s not coaches fault for all the overthrow passes, especially deep throws.
If the Bears somehow lose this Pats game, Waldron will be fired next week.
Don't think anyone is saying Poles is a genius. Just that he has accomplished a great deal to be optimistic about. I posted earlier this week in detail about how he hasn't been successful yet on the OL and how much I hated the decision last offseason stick with Flus rather than go all-out to get Harbaugh.
Daniels is off to a great start I agree. But he isn't gonna last. The guy is too skinny to survive long-term IMO. Kingsbury also has a rep for hot starts that fade over time as DCs adapt to him. We shall see.
I do agree completely that Waldron could/should be fired ASAP and Flus is gonna have no choice if they lose Sunday.
You have to look at what Poles got with his lucky two #1 picks compared to the players he passed over in the draft. We need a couple more years to fully expose that. Same applies to Smith, Edmunds, Davis, Claypool deals. He tried to trade Davis this week and even offered to eat some of the money but no takers.
I should have said Daniels winning OROTY depends on avoiding injury. I wouldn’t bet against him.
You're not suggesting that the Bears will make another bad OC hire, are you?
Yeah, there's zero reason to believe they won't chose the wrong guy yet again.
If they don't fire Flus I can garantee it. He'll be on a one year deal cuz everybody and their sister will know Flus is gone the next year, and no quality OC is gonna come here for that - Unless we guarantee he's the HC next year....
You had to drag our sisters into this?
Yeah... that's the perfect recipe to bring in a top notch OC. No, the plan is to wait til Johnson goes somewhere else next year and then troll the bottom of the barrel the next year and pick from the leftovers.
Don't think anyone is saying Poles is a genius. Just that he has accomplished a great deal to be optimistic about. I posted earlier this week in detail about how he hasn't been successful yet on the OL and how much I hated the decision last offseason stick with Flus rather than go all-out to get Harbaugh.
Daniels is off to a great start I agree. But he isn't gonna last. The guy is too skinny to survive long-term IMO. Kingsbury also has a rep for hot starts that fade over time as DCs adapt to him. We shall see.
I do agree completely that Waldron could/should be fired ASAP and Flus is gonna have no choice if they lose Sunday.
You have to look at what Poles got with his lucky two #1 picks compared to the players he passed over in the draft. We need a couple more years to fully expose that. Same applies to Smith, Edmunds, Davis, Claypool deals. He tried to trade Davis this week and even offered to eat some of the money but no takers.
I should have said Daniels winning OROTY depends on avoiding injury. I wouldn’t bet against him.
Oh I think he will win OROY. My comments were more long term. With his physique and playing style, I don't see Daniels being built for the long haul.
You have to look at what Poles got with his lucky two #1 picks compared to the players he passed over in the draft. We need a couple more years to fully expose that. Same applies to Smith, Edmunds, Davis, Claypool deals. He tried to trade Davis this week and even offered to eat some of the money but no takers.
I should have said Daniels winning OROTY depends on avoiding injury. I wouldn’t bet against him.
Oh I think he will win OROY. My comments were more long term. With his physique and playing style, I don't see Daniels being built for the long haul.
It’s more about luck than body size. If they get to your knee, it doesn’t matter how big you are. Richardson, for example.
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*Jeff Ulbrich, who was on our list last year, is currently the interim head coach of the Jets and would have to be relieved of that job in order for us to consider him a candidate. The same goes for Darren Rizzi, the interim head coach of the Saints.
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Bill Belichick, former head coach, New England Patriots Joe Brady, offensive coordinator, Buffalo Bills Liam Coen, offensive coordinator, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ejiro Evero, defensive coordinator, Carolina Panthers Brian Flores, defensive coordinator, Minnesota Vikings Aaron Glenn, defensive coordinator, Detroit Lions Jeff Hafley, defensive coordinator, Green Bay Packers Chris Horton, special teams coordinator, Baltimore Ravens Ben Johnson, offensive coordinator, Detroit Lions Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator, Denver Broncos Kliff Kingsbury, offensive coordinator, Washington Commanders Jesse Minter, defensive coordinator, Los Angeles Chargers Todd Monken, offensive coordinator, Baltimore Ravens Kellen Moore, offensive coordinator, Philadelphia Eagles Josh McCown, quarterbacks coach, Minnesota Vikings Matt Nagy, offensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs Drew Petzing, offensive coordinator, Arizona Cardinals Dan Pitcher, offensive coordinator, Cincinnati Bengals Zac Robinson, offensive coordinator, Atlanta Falcons Robert Saleh, offensive consultant, Green Bay Packers Bobby Slowik, offensive coordinator, Houston Texans Arthur Smith, offensive coordinator, Pittsburgh Steelers Frank Smith, offensive coordinator, Miami Dolphins Steve Spagnuolo, defensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs Adam Stenavich, offensive coordinator, Green Bay Packers Mike Vrabel, personnel consultant, Cleveland Browns Anthony Weaver, defensive coordinator, Miami Dolphins
*Jeff Ulbrich, who was on our list last year, is currently the interim head coach of the Jets and would have to be relieved of that job in order for us to consider him a candidate. The same goes for Darren Rizzi, the interim head coach of the Saints.
----- Also has a list of Special Teams Coords who might be ready for a jump to HC as well as non OCs/DCs who might be moving up into those positions, giving them a head start on future HC-ing positions.