Dave Magazu is one amazing OL coach. Hope he stays.

Now I'll deal with that last one here.  Not every team plays a WCO style offense with a 3 and out system.  I can tell you that they don't play that here in Denver under Kubiak either and they didn't under Shanahan when he was coaching Elway.

Even now the Bears don't use it because Barkley can't push passes downfield that way.  Hoyer may be the only one who seemed to prefer that dink and dunk game.  The Bears use some play action to set up many passes and those don't not come off of three step drops anywhere on this planet.  Those are usually 5 or 7 step drops.  Watch.  But the QB has to have an ability to step up into the pocket to avoid the edge rush as the OTs are pushing the rusher around the back.  Cutler wasn't getting a clean pocket and that was causing some of those sacks.

Now, if you or the coaches want to run a 3 step and out WCO style offense then I would suggest we get another QB because that doesn't play into Cutler strengths.  Some plays may work off that because it's not all Martz "Air Coryell" stuff but once again Cutler fails when someone asks him to do what he does not do well.  When they do what he does do well as Gase did he plays some of the best QB of his career.

So for my final summary of it this isn't about Cutler the QB being bad but it may well be about Cutler the QB not being the RIGHT QB for what you think we should run or the Bears (Fox or others) would like to run.  That much I'll give you but that's not all on Cutler and it never has been.  If he's not the "right" guy then by all means trade him and move on to someone whose a better fit but then we also need to find that guy because I don't see him on the roster yet and I don't see any really standout draft prospects either.

If they can replace Cutler I would rather they do it sooner than later so he can get on with his career somewhere he can be successful.

I've seen things that are way out of date but nothing about this year. I saw something that had average time to throw of qb's and average time of sack of qb's; QB was one of the longest to hold onto the ball and one of the highest when sacked also. 

But again, way out of date, 3 oc's from now at least.

Look Ric if he holds the ball too long now well then he did it 3 OCs ago too.  Like you and others like to say "Cutler is Cutler.  And not all of the QBs in that summary have had 3 different OCs either.  So I take it that what you're saying is not to waste my time with it because you won't accept it anyway?  Is that it?

Here's a glimpse of what's in there that backs some of what I say about Rodgers.

• Aaron Rogers was a fascinating study as he had the highest percentage of drop-backs end in two seconds or less, but also had the lowest percentage of drop-backs in the 2.1-to-3.6-second range. Then he’s near the top of the league in percentage of drop-backs that last at least 3.6 seconds.

So with him the profile would be a barbell with a very high number of 3 and out play calls and an equal number of drop backs lasting well over 3 seconds.  Some of this is also the play call and neither Cutler or Rodger call their own plays whereas a QB like Manning used a lot of audible options and threw very quickly.  The Bears throw some quick slants and bubble screens too but I'll challenge you now to find me many times when Cutler ever got 3.6 seconds or more to set up, read, and throw.  I'll bet you won't find many where his protection held anywhere near that long.

My point was simple and not a comparison of their accomplishments but that as I told you in another post Rodgers often holds the ball as long or longer than Cutler does so I will indeed compare them in that way. You don't get to dismiss that part so easily just because it doesn't jive with your perceptions.

If what you say about Cutler holding the ball too long is impacting sacks, hits, and pressures, then in at least a good number of cases the exact same would also be true of Rodgers right?  If he's not getting sacked or hit as often then the most obvious reason would be that Rodgers has better blocking right?  It's the same train of logic you're using Ric just in reverse as far as the results.

I would also add that Rodgers has far more freedom to improvise than Cutler has ever had and that also helps but for the most part it will always come down to better blocking.  How do we know?  How many All Pro OTs and/or OGs has Cutler had blocking for him since he arrived?  How many has Rodgers had?  We have one blocking for us now and there have been a few more.

Cutler doesn't need two All Pro OTs like you suggested in order to be successful but he does need better blocking than he's typically gotten in any year including the beginning of this one.  Hell Ric, even the running game wasn't working then so that will tell you just how bad the blocking during the early games really was period.  If you choose not to accept it that's on you but I'm not using my MSU here ya know.