I would build the DL first. A great defense will keep you in the game even if your offense is struggling. Bears had a chance late in 4Q to win both games we’ve lost, thanks to the defense. But otherwise, I fully agree: start with the trenches. Blocking and tackling are fundamental to everything, and that begins in the trenches.
tomAtoe tomahto. a good OL will keep you in games also, helping the O score points, and helping them win ToP via the run game when the team has the lead. Either way it's the lines then the qb, then te/dbs, then lb/wr/rb then P/K/LS.
there is a hierarchy of positional importance, and the Lines and QB are the highest. The reason I do OL is b/c it protects the QB which is by far the most important, sooner you have an OL the sooner you can have a good qb, the sooner you can worry about winning. Either way though it's not DB's LB's DL WR/RB, QB....PUNTER....
And the first thing Poles went for was two DBs and two LBs.
tomAtoe tomahto. a good OL will keep you in games also, helping the O score points, and helping them win ToP via the run game when the team has the lead. Either way it's the lines then the qb, then te/dbs, then lb/wr/rb then P/K/LS.
there is a hierarchy of positional importance, and the Lines and QB are the highest. The reason I do OL is b/c it protects the QB which is by far the most important, sooner you have an OL the sooner you can have a good qb, the sooner you can worry about winning. Either way though it's not DB's LB's DL WR/RB, QB....PUNTER....
And the first thing Poles went for was two DBs and two LBs.
And traded for a WR. When he drafted the QB, he HAD to invest in the OL; and he didn't. These guys are getting pancaked and ending up on their asses multiple times every game. That is bad players, that's not coaching, that's talent. You drafted a rookie QB and felt like the OL that cannot protect or run block was a solid choice. Again, I think there is a flaw in HH w/Poles and Flus of toxic positivity. They really believe in all their players and won't accept any negative points. Davis, VJJ, Coleman, drafted a P in the mid rounds. Everyone was on board b/c, imo, they aren't allowed to speak out against the leadership w/out being seen as a dissident and negative.
IMO that comes from Poles. If you clean house it has to start w/the GM who built this mess. I'm not for it. I think you need to give everyone at least 1 more year, but if they go, it has to be the entire group. I won't put the majority of this mess on the coaches when the majority of the problem is the OL Poles built.
And the first thing Poles went for was two DBs and two LBs.
And traded for a WR. When he drafted the QB, he HAD to invest in the OL; and he didn't. These guys are getting pancaked and ending up on their asses multiple times every game. That is bad players, that's not coaching, that's talent. You drafted a rookie QB and felt like the OL that cannot protect or run block was a solid choice. Again, I think there is a flaw in HH w/Poles and Flus of toxic positivity. They really believe in all their players and won't accept any negative points. Davis, VJJ, Coleman, drafted a P in the mid rounds. Everyone was on board b/c, imo, they aren't allowed to speak out against the leadership w/out being seen as a dissident and negative.
IMO that comes from Poles. If you clean house it has to start w/the GM who built this mess. I'm not for it. I think you need to give everyone at least 1 more year, but if they go, it has to be the entire group. I won't put the majority of this mess on the coaches when the majority of the problem is the OL Poles built.
It a Poles OL, but it’s also a Poles coaching staff.
I already said I’m giving him 2025-26 to produce a Super Bowl ready team. If he goes balls to the wall in free agency and draft for OL, it’s still conceivable, isn’t it?
It was 2 bad teams trying not to win yesterday. But one was better at losing then the other. Much like Tenn felt like the Bears didn't win that game but they lost it, that's what happened w/Indy. The Bears lost that game.
Expect more. I knew the OL was bad, I didn't have any idea it would be this bad. They'll be lucky to get to 7 wins. Poles and Flus have put the barest of minimums into the OL and it's biting everyone in the ass. Bitched about it as they build the Def, bitched about it as they brought in WR's. Having a top 5 Def means nothing if the O cannot score. Having WR's and a QB means nothing if the OL is so bad they cannot do either of their jobs at even a competent level.
Poles and Flus likely won't go anywhere in the offseason no matter what. The team likely won't want to follow tradition of existing hc/gm, rookie qb, bad year fire hc/gm. but they both should be for how this team was built. Flus only gets a pass if he had no input. The team was built incorrectly from yr 1.
Is it the O Line or is it the coaching? How has the line seemingly on paper improved but gotten much worse? Braxton yr 3, Teven now savvy vet, Coleman a starting C in LA has to be better than last years C*, Nate Davis is a bum but Matt Pryor decent upgrade, then Wright high 1st Rd pick in 2nd yr. How are they not better?? *Lucas Patrick was rated as best C after week 2 under Kubiak (so it is coaching/scheme?). So coaching is to blame? Are they confused at to their assignments because it sure looks that way. I just dont understand how this O Line has been SO awful and really taken steps back from last year?? If I recall Bears OLine struggled early last year in the run game but then scheme changes were made by coaching and they improved, no? Make it make sense!
I can't make it make sense but, I believe you are on to something. Based on what i am seeing it has to be coaching. Everytime I watch, I dread when the Bears go on offense because, they best way I can dexcribe it is, they look lost and disorganized. Sometimes it is multiple players and sometimes it is just one missed assignment that allows the opposing defense to take free shots against the person with the ball. Every team we've played "looks" better against our arguably good defense than we do against any defense. I use Tevin as an example: How did he go from probowl guard to a raggedy Andy doll.
They look lost and disorganized. We have talent. We can argue whether the talent is sufficient but we have talent that has proven themselves elsewhere or at other times. So, the main thing, in my mind, that could cause this is coaching.
Is it the O Line or is it the coaching? How has the line seemingly on paper improved but gotten much worse? Braxton yr 3, Teven now savvy vet, Coleman a starting C in LA has to be better than last years C*, Nate Davis is a bum but Matt Pryor decent upgrade, then Wright high 1st Rd pick in 2nd yr. How are they not better?? *Lucas Patrick was rated as best C after week 2 under Kubiak (so it is coaching/scheme?). So coaching is to blame? Are they confused at to their assignments because it sure looks that way. I just dont understand how this O Line has been SO awful and really taken steps back from last year?? If I recall Bears OLine struggled early last year in the run game but then scheme changes were made by coaching and they improved, no? Make it make sense!
I can't make it make sense but, I believe you are on to something. Based on what i am seeing it has to be coaching. Everytime I watch, I dread when the Bears go on offense because, they best way I can dexcribe it is, they look lost and disorganized. Sometimes it is multiple players and sometimes it is just one missed assignment that allows the opposing defense to take free shots against the person with the ball. Every team we've played "looks" better against our arguably good defense than we do against any defense. I use Tevin as an example: How did he go from probowl guard to a raggedy Andy doll.
They look lost and disorganized. We have talent. We can argue whether the talent is sufficient but we have talent that has proven themselves elsewhere or at other times. So, the main thing, in my mind, that could cause this is coaching.
Brax said that he could see the defense was set to stop that 4th down pitch to Swift AND Williams had a check down option built into the play call. But he didn’t have time because they were so slow getting the play set up, there was only 10 seconds left on the play clock. There is no excuse for that. Or wasting a timeout on getting the 2-pt. conversion play done. This kind of stuff should be smooth and automatic. Flus is looking too much like Nagy on the sidelines.
I can't make it make sense but, I believe you are on to something. Based on what i am seeing it has to be coaching. Everytime I watch, I dread when the Bears go on offense because, they best way I can dexcribe it is, they look lost and disorganized. Sometimes it is multiple players and sometimes it is just one missed assignment that allows the opposing defense to take free shots against the person with the ball. Every team we've played "looks" better against our arguably good defense than we do against any defense. I use Tevin as an example: How did he go from probowl guard to a raggedy Andy doll.
They look lost and disorganized. We have talent. We can argue whether the talent is sufficient but we have talent that has proven themselves elsewhere or at other times. So, the main thing, in my mind, that could cause this is coaching.
Brax said that he could see the defense was set to stop that 4th down pitch to Swift AND Williams had a check down option built into the play call. But he didn’t have time because they were so slow getting the play set up, there was only 10 seconds left on the play clock. There is no excuse for that. Or wasting a timeout on getting the 2-pt. conversion play done. This kind of stuff should be smooth and automatic.Flus is looking too much like Nagy on the sidelines.
Yep, that was 100% on the coaches.
They practiced that play all week for goaline vs an anticipated 6-1 front by the Colts. First off, WHY? That's a play used mostly against low level college defenses who lack the speed to cover the edge. 2nd, the only NFL QBs who should run it are maybe Lamar and Josh Allen. Caleb isn't big or fast enough to be successful there. 3rd, he hasn't run that play since high school. Bottom line: that play even being in the playbook is coaching malpractice. Rip that page out and burn it.
On top of all that, they didn't have the defensive look that was hoped for (Colts were in 5-2) and Caleb knew it. But the play clock was running out and he didn't feel he had the time audible out of it especially in a loud road stadium deep in the red zone where its hard to hear. Even if you were dumb enough to practice and call that garbage play, it had no chance there even if blocked properly. Swift still would have had to break a tackle (we did not have numbers) and he's shown zero ability to do that.
Flus had 3 TOs for crying out loud too! This was the end of the 1st half in the most critical play of the game so far yet he didn't use one to reset the play even after it had no chance of success.
From top to bottom, that whole series of 4 plays was a film study of how to be a bad coaching staff and how to misuse your personnel in the worst way. I bet the Bears win that game easily in the 2nd half if they punch it in there.
I repeat, FLUS IS IN YEAR 3 AS A HC. THERE'S ZERO EXCUSES FOR THIS.