With this WR group, there’s no excuse for a generational QB to not get the ball out in 2.5 seconds, and if this OL can’t even hold that long, then it’s on them, not Williams.
David, the problem is that sometimes those D guys are on you in less than 2.5 seconds. Guys like Chop Robinson are 10 yard split guys in 1.5 seconds. Laiatu Latu was one of the guys who was on Caleb in those games who would be in the backfield with the snap. What would happen would be Caleb would juke (when he could avoid the sack) but there is no time to deliver a pass in those situations. You just run. In 1.5 seconds your WRs haven't been able to get into their routes at all. Sometimes there isn't anyone to throw to when the OL lets the D guys past like that (sometimes unblocked and untouched).
Wide receivers are not going to help if there is no time to pass the ball. But if the Bears OL can protect Caleb then I think he will be great with these WRs we (now) have.
With this WR group, there’s no excuse for a generational QB to not get the ball out in 2.5 seconds, and if this OL can’t even hold that long, then it’s on them, not Williams.
David, the problem is that sometimes those D guys are on you in less than 2.5 seconds. Guys like Chop Robinson are 10 yard split guys in 1.5 seconds. Laiatu Latu was one of the guys who was on Caleb in those games who would be in the backfield with the snap. What would happen would be Caleb would juke (when he could avoid the sack) but there is no time to deliver a pass in those situations. You just run. In 1.5 seconds your WRs haven't been able to get into their routes at all. Sometimes there isn't anyone to throw to.
Wide receivers are not going to help if there is no time to pass the ball. The offensive line HAS to give a QB some time to get the ball out.
With few exceptions, the good QBs are at around 2.5. If he’s holding the ball in the pocket for much longer than that, he’s in trouble. On the other side, any OL who can’t hold that long is also a problem. Lord knows, we’ve seen both problems for years.
David, the problem is that sometimes those D guys are on you in less than 2.5 seconds. Guys like Chop Robinson are 10 yard split guys in 1.5 seconds. Laiatu Latu was one of the guys who was on Caleb in those games who would be in the backfield with the snap. What would happen would be Caleb would juke (when he could avoid the sack) but there is no time to deliver a pass in those situations. You just run. In 1.5 seconds your WRs haven't been able to get into their routes at all. Sometimes there isn't anyone to throw to.
Wide receivers are not going to help if there is no time to pass the ball. The offensive line HAS to give a QB some time to get the ball out.
With few exceptions, the good QBs are at around 2.5. If he’s holding the ball in the pocket for much longer than that, he’s in trouble. On the other side, any OL who can’t hold that long is also a problem. Lord knows, we’ve seen both problems for years.
I'm with you on that. One positive is that I do believe Caleb processes mentally at an elite level, so he will be able to do a quick release, even if it's just throwing the ball away. These NFL defenses are going to be a level above anything he's played against in college. And they will be a heck of a lot more complex than what college defenses were doing.
Also, I'm thinking that some of those juke plays that evades college guys, won't work as well or as often against the NFL players he will face every single game now. I just don't think it will be quite as easy to escape... sometimes it will work, but not as easy or often as at USC.
With few exceptions, the good QBs are at around 2.5. If he’s holding the ball in the pocket for much longer than that, he’s in trouble. On the other side, any OL who can’t hold that long is also a problem. Lord knows, we’ve seen both problems for years.
I'm with you on that. One positive is that I do believe Caleb processes mentally at an elite level, so he will be able to do a quick release, even if it's just throwing the ball away. These NFL defenses are going to be a level above anything he's played against in college. And they will be a heck of a lot more complex than what college defenses were doing.
Also, I'm thinking that some of those juke plays that evades college guys, won't work as well or as often against the NFL players he will face every single game now. I just don't think it will be quite as easy to escape... sometimes it will work, but not as easy or often as at USC.
He must, as they say in his scouting report, “play within the system.” I don’t want to see unnecessary scrambling and free-lancing. If he has any problem early in his career, that’s probably it.
I'm with you on that. One positive is that I do believe Caleb processes mentally at an elite level, so he will be able to do a quick release, even if it's just throwing the ball away. These NFL defenses are going to be a level above anything he's played against in college. And they will be a heck of a lot more complex than what college defenses were doing.
Also, I'm thinking that some of those juke plays that evades college guys, won't work as well or as often against the NFL players he will face every single game now. I just don't think it will be quite as easy to escape... sometimes it will work, but not as easy or often as at USC.
He must, as they say in his scouting report, “play within the system.” I don’t want to see unnecessary scrambling and free-lancing. If he has any problem early in his career, that’s probably it.
I'm not sure what to expect, other than it will take him some time to adjust to NFL play. My guess is that he will make his share of mistakes. We have seen so many of the greatest QBs of all time have rough rookie seasons. Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie season (more ints than TDs). I think it will come down to the offensive line setting the ceiling for his rookie year. They don't have to play great, but the better they do play, the quicker Caleb will adjust to the NFL. My gut feeling is that the starting 5 offensive linemen are capable of, at least, being average. I'll take than and be a happy camper. I'm hoping the OL stays healthy. If they have to flip-flop guys around to make up for injuries... that just hasn't worked out so well for us in the past. I'd rather see backups who are good enough to step into the position of the guy who went down - and give decent play there. The 2025 season needs to be the "year of the linemen" both D and O I think. Edge on D and at least better depth on the Oline.
Yeah, if we'd have a particularly rough year with OL injuries this rookie season for Caleb, that would be really sad.
He must, as they say in his scouting report, “play within the system.” I don’t want to see unnecessary scrambling and free-lancing. If he has any problem early in his career, that’s probably it.
I'm not sure what to expect, other than it will take him some time to adjust to NFL play. My guess is that he will make his share of mistakes. We have seen so many of the greatest QBs of all time have rough rookie seasons. Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie season (more ints than TDs). I think it will come down to the offensive line setting the ceiling for his rookie year. They don't have to play great, but the better they do play, the quicker Caleb will adjust to the NFL. My gut feeling is that the starting 5 offensive linemen are capable of, at least, being average. I'll take than and be a happy camper. I'm hoping the OL stays healthy. If they have to flip-flop guys around to make up for injuries... that just hasn't worked out so well for us in the past. I'd rather see backups who are good enough to step into the position of the guy who went down - and give decent play there. The 2025 season needs to be the "year of the linemen" both D and O I think. Edge on D and at least better depth on the Oline.
Yeah, if we'd have a particularly rough year with OL injuries this rookie season for Caleb, that would be really sad.
I just watched a podcast from a guy who has seen the offense the Bears are running in OTA. He says we are going to see a lot RPO plays with inside zone blocking, two TE’s, and Bates doing a great job in the middle. Bears will pound the rock, lead the NFL in rushing, and we really need only about 3,500 yards passing. A balanced attack with 6,500+ total offense.
I'm not sure what to expect, other than it will take him some time to adjust to NFL play. My guess is that he will make his share of mistakes. We have seen so many of the greatest QBs of all time have rough rookie seasons. Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie season (more ints than TDs). I think it will come down to the offensive line setting the ceiling for his rookie year. They don't have to play great, but the better they do play, the quicker Caleb will adjust to the NFL. My gut feeling is that the starting 5 offensive linemen are capable of, at least, being average. I'll take than and be a happy camper. I'm hoping the OL stays healthy. If they have to flip-flop guys around to make up for injuries... that just hasn't worked out so well for us in the past. I'd rather see backups who are good enough to step into the position of the guy who went down - and give decent play there. The 2025 season needs to be the "year of the linemen" both D and O I think. Edge on D and at least better depth on the Oline.
Yeah, if we'd have a particularly rough year with OL injuries this rookie season for Caleb, that would be really sad.
I just watched a podcast from a guy who has seen the offense the Bears are running in OTA. He says we are going to see a lot RPO plays with inside zone blocking, two TE’s, and Bates doing a great job in the middle. Bears will pound the rock, lead the NFL in rushing, and we really need only about 3,500 yards passing. A balanced attack with 6,500+ total offense.
I'm not sure what to expect, other than it will take him some time to adjust to NFL play. My guess is that he will make his share of mistakes. We have seen so many of the greatest QBs of all time have rough rookie seasons. Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie season (more ints than TDs). I think it will come down to the offensive line setting the ceiling for his rookie year. They don't have to play great, but the better they do play, the quicker Caleb will adjust to the NFL. My gut feeling is that the starting 5 offensive linemen are capable of, at least, being average. I'll take than and be a happy camper. I'm hoping the OL stays healthy. If they have to flip-flop guys around to make up for injuries... that just hasn't worked out so well for us in the past. I'd rather see backups who are good enough to step into the position of the guy who went down - and give decent play there. The 2025 season needs to be the "year of the linemen" both D and O I think. Edge on D and at least better depth on the Oline.
Yeah, if we'd have a particularly rough year with OL injuries this rookie season for Caleb, that would be really sad.
I just watched a podcast from a guy who has seen the offense the Bears are running in OTA. He says we are going to see a lot RPO plays with inside zone blocking, two TE’s, and Bates doing a great job in the middle. Bears will pound the rock, lead the NFL in rushing, and we really need only about 3,500 yards passing. A balanced attack with 6,500+ total offense.
Interesting to hear that the Bears are changing from outside zone to inside zone blocking.
I just watched a podcast from a guy who has seen the offense the Bears are running in OTA. He says we are going to see a lot RPO plays with inside zone blocking, two TE’s, and Bates doing a great job in the middle. Bears will pound the rock, lead the NFL in rushing, and we really need only about 3,500 yards passing. A balanced attack with 6,500+ total offense.
Interesting to hear that the Bears are changing from outside zone to inside zone blocking.
Yes, he said that was the main reason they got Bates. He is very good for inside zone blocking. If this works, it should be perfect for Allen in his short to medium routes on the RPO plays.
