Imrem: How about Notre Dame's Kizer for Chicago Bears?

Ric, I'm only telling you what the scuttlebutt was on McClown and it wasn't only the Bears who claimed that.  McClown ran a pro set offense at UCLA which is why many scouts felt he had an advantage over the others none of which did all that well except for brief periods of time.  McNabb was the best of them.

Once again your "perceptions" are where you and I always disagree and your perceptions are seldom backed by the actual facts just like this one was not.  You assumed McClown was a late 1st round pick when in reality he wasn't.  He was drafted at almost the same spot Cutler was and ten picks before Rex Grossman, the only two QB who've actually won playoff games for us in the past 15 years.  One ended up playing in a SB and the other fell one game short due to an injury.

For a very brief period of time he looked OK but that soon ended when he proved far more careless with the ball than Cutler has ever been.  He was also a far bigger dickhead than anything you or other fans have ever assumed Cutler to be.  He's actually not and his teammates confirm that.  No one in Chicago shed a tear when McClown got shipped out two years after we drafted him.

Kizer is in reality another Cutler type QB with a great arm and athleticism but his accuracy is way below NFL standards and so is his decision making so once again we'd have a make over project not too dissimilar from the very guy you've been wanting to dump for the last six years or so.  How do you reconcile that?   If Kizer is still on the board on day two maybe we'd take a look at him but I'm also gonna tell you that Fox will not use him over a guy like Barkley whose a lower risk pocket passer much like Hoyer.

Fox won't back the pick anymore than he would Newton when he was at Carolina.  He preferred Clauson remember?  So unless Fox is fired or Pace tells him to STFU on draft day I'd put any thoughts of drafting Kizer in round one out of your head.  All that aside I don't think Kizer is all that good or all that NFL ready either.  Few ND QBs have made an impact in the NFL of late or even historically.