QUOTE;"But fans are often pretty ignorant. They really are. They panic when we have a season like we are having now and want to fire everyone from the McCaskey family, to Ted Phillips, to Pace (bring in some old geezer "football guy" to fix it all), to Fox, to Loggains, etc. etc. etc."
Having followed this team for as long as you have I'm gonna exempt myself from your insult and still tell you that there are people who need to lose their jobs. Looking at this through your rose colored glasses only makes it more acceptable to YOU. At least some of us are fed up and tired of all of the excuses that roll out of Halas Hall each January.
This team is where it is because the McCaskey's have for over 30 years allowed the team to be run by non-football people like themselves and Ted Phillips and the sheer number of coaching, GM, and player personnel screw ups they made is astonishing. And if they don't hire SOME "old geezer" who can operate an NFL team professionally soon I wouldn't be expecting much if any improvement if I were you. Like I've told you, BOHICA.
QUOTE;"But fans are often pretty ignorant. They really are. They panic when we have a season like we are having now and want to fire everyone from the McCaskey family, to Ted Phillips, to Pace (bring in some old geezer "football guy" to fix it all), to Fox, to Loggains, etc. etc. etc."
Having followed this team for as long as you have I'm gonna exempt myself from your insult and still tell you that there are people who need to lose their jobs. Looking at this through your rose colored glasses only makes it more acceptable to YOU. At least some of us are fed up and tired of all of the excuses that roll out of Halas Hall each January.
This team is where it is because the McCaskey's have for over 30 years allowed the team to be run by non-football people like themselves and Ted Phillips and the sheer number of coaching, GM, and player personnel screw ups they made is astonishing. And if they don't hire SOME "old geezer" who can operate an NFL team professionally soon I wouldn't be expecting much if any improvement if I were you. Like I've told you, BOHICA.
In fact, I'd put money on it.
I understand your view. I too am frustrated by the past failures. There have been a number of reasons for what happened in the past. I can't change the past, and I refuse to live in the past. I'm looking forward to better seasons and I do believe we will see them. Only time will tell.
“I think the scheme thing is overblown because you’re playing a lot of nickel right now and the group we inherited wasn’t built for the 4-3 either, obviously, by the two years they had prior to us getting here,” he said. “So they weren’t built for anything. We had to start at ground zero.”
Gotta love that Mel. Not to mention the many fans that felt that there were reasons his defense wasn't working. Other than the reason that he sucked I mean.
Kinda feel like Mel's issue, in addition to his coaching deficiencies, was a talent issue and that's supported by what the Fang said. This team wasn't built for anything, the defense had no talent. Mel sucked - sure but the lack of talent on this defense has been a huge issue for a long time.
QUOTE;"But fans are often pretty ignorant. They really are. They panic when we have a season like we are having now and want to fire everyone from the McCaskey family, to Ted Phillips, to Pace (bring in some old geezer "football guy" to fix it all), to Fox, to Loggains, etc. etc. etc."
Having followed this team for as long as you have I'm gonna exempt myself from your insult and still tell you that there are people who need to lose their jobs. Looking at this through your rose colored glasses only makes it more acceptable to YOU. At least some of us are fed up and tired of all of the excuses that roll out of Halas Hall each January.
This team is where it is because the McCaskey's have for over 30 years allowed the team to be run by non-football people like themselves and Ted Phillips and the sheer number of coaching, GM, and player personnel screw ups they made is astonishing. And if they don't hire SOME "old geezer" who can operate an NFL team professionally soon I wouldn't be expecting much if any improvement if I were you. Like I've told you, BOHICA.
In fact, I'd put money on it.
I understand your view. I too am frustrated by the past failures. There have been a number of reasons for what happened in the past. I can't change the past, and I refuse to live in the past. I'm looking forward to better seasons and I do believe we will see them. Only time will tell.
I agree with you 100% as far as the past goes but those who don't learn from it are also doomed to repeat it and IMHO that IS the "McCaskey Curse" that has followed this team for the past 30 years. They simply will not relinquish the control they need to because Ginny sees the Bears as a job site for her family.
While I appreciate her caring nature that's no way to run an NFL team.
When in an interview I hear her say she hopes she's running the team the way the old man did I grind my teeth because nothing could be farther from the truth. The old man did provide jobs for his kin but he never let them actually do anything. Even Mugs was subordinate to Jim Finks when GSH hired him and Ed McCaskey was little more than an office mascot the players liked because he was entertaining. Halas never even allowed him to stay around during actual business meetings.
Ted Phillips has their ear and their confidence but in reality all he's ever done since Mikey was fired is to feather his own nest and block them from hiring a GM with real power. JA never had it and neither did Emery. In fact Emery was Teddy Bears handpicked successor to JA. IMHO this is the shit that has to stop. Phillips either needs to be put out to pasture or denuded of all power as it relates to football matters. We were told that was gonna be the case two years ago and it's proven to be a lie. There is no way he didn't have a hand in the Fox hire and there is no way he's not still standing guard over the vault when it comes to contracts. He may not be negotiating them anymore but his presence is felt nonetheless.
IHMO the only thing time will tell us, and soon, is if the McCaskeys are serious about turning that franchise around. If we don't see them hire an Exec VP to run that team then in my opinion they aren't serious and nothing will change except the draperies they use to make it look like it.
“I think the scheme thing is overblown because you’re playing a lot of nickel right now and the group we inherited wasn’t built for the 4-3 either, obviously, by the two years they had prior to us getting here,” he said. “So they weren’t built for anything. We had to start at ground zero.”
Gotta love that Mel. Not to mention the many fans that felt that there were reasons his defense wasn't working. Other than the reason that he sucked I mean.
Kinda feel like Mel's issue, in addition to his coaching deficiencies, was a talent issue and that's supported by what the Fang said. This team wasn't built for anything, the defense had no talent. Mel sucked - sure but the lack of talent on this defense has been a huge issue for a long time.
No doubt but when it rains lemons you make lemonade. Fangio, to the best of his ability, has been able to do that. Tucker could not and overall Fox has not at least from an offensive perspective. He's no more of what this team needs right now than Trestman and Tucker were.
Emery's coaching hires were even worse than his player personnel decisions. Neither Trestman or Tucker were capable of performing in their jobs and eventually Kromer proved why his highest and best position is that of an OL coach. He went cheap on coaching and it sent the team into a slide we're still trying to dig out from.
I still say these are little more than extensions of 30 years of poor hires on the part of ownership. I have to even question whether Accorsi made the best recommendations or only those Teddy Bears and GMcC were most likely to accept. I doubt it was the former if only because he realized there was no way those two would ever allow themselves to be pushed out of their comfort zone and that zone tends to embrace losers.
I'd bet you my best guitar there's not a day that goes by they don't regret ever letting Phil Emery talk them into letting him fire Lovie. Lovie was their ideal HC type. Low key, non confrontational, religious, conforming, even keeled, never called attention to himself, well liked by his players, and he won often enough to keep the natives from getting too restless. Lovie's tenure was the only time in the past 30 years this team has ever looked like it had a plan it was following. If we'd have had a better personnel GM like Pace in those days and been willing to spend on offense to back Cutler we'd have won more than we did.
The move to Emery backfired in so many ways and who was the guy who brought Emery in and why is he still involved in the Bears football team in any capacity? We keep having to replace everyone but the one guy who actually need to be replaced tomorrow.
“I think the scheme thing is overblown because you’re playing a lot of nickel right now and the group we inherited wasn’t built for the 4-3 either, obviously, by the two years they had prior to us getting here,” he said. “So they weren’t built for anything. We had to start at ground zero.”
Gotta love that Mel. Not to mention the many fans that felt that there were reasons his defense wasn't working. Other than the reason that he sucked I mean.
Kinda feel like Mel's issue, in addition to his coaching deficiencies, was a talent issue and that's supported by what the Fang said. This team wasn't built for anything, the defense had no talent. Mel sucked - sure but the lack of talent on this defense has been a huge issue for a long time.
So since the team had no talent, he followed that up by the masterstroke of since, we have no talent, I can design the "not built for anything" scheme. I'll simply put guys here and guys there and if they are not on the same page, well then it's ok because I have no talent.
LOL.... dud had no clue what he was doing. He needed to be building for SOMETHING and apparently he didn't know how to do that. Talent or no talent you still must design a defense if you are the DC. Assuming you actually can that is. I never heard of a coordinator at that level just playing it by ear.
@bearsinhouston I don't want to absolve Tucker. He was terrible but he did have some significant personnel and philosophical issues making his job even harder. He didn't get to pick his guys AND he didn't get to pick his scheme. Few if any defensive coordinators could thrive under those conditions. Tucker def. was not one.
@bearsinhouston I don't want to absolve Tucker. He was terrible but he did have some significant personnel and philosophical issues making his job even harder. He didn't get to pick his guys AND he didn't get to pick his scheme. Few if any defensive coordinators could thrive under those conditions. Tucker def. was not one.
that's really not true Belli. That first year, he was "saddled" with that highly ranked defensive scheme that he couldn't seem to keep functioning. The next year, since it was the the fact that he didn't get to choose his own scheme, they allowed him to do that. He chose the "not built for anything" scheme. And things got even worse.
Not sure how there really are too many things that are really legitimate here. He was just bad. Really bad.