Bears to hire Shane Waldron new OC

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Bears to hire Shane Waldron new OC Jan 22, 2024 7:57:23 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Jan 22, 2024 7:57:23 GMT -6

Great hire.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if he's gonna run a 90-10 run/pass or 50-50 run/pass O. If he's able to duplicate the same offense and have the QB play like Geno Smith (who's now a much better QB than Fields) over the past two years, I'll be a happy camper.

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Bears to hire Shane Waldron new OC Jan 22, 2024 8:27:46 GMT -6 AlexM and riczaj01 like this

Post by mpbears68 on Jan 22, 2024 8:27:46 GMT -6

Jan 22, 2024 7:36:05 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

So runs a similar O as Getsy, and is the O that is being learned by C-Will. From What I've heard, the real artist behind the rehab of Geno was the QBC last year, who is the OC in TB now(see Bakers big year). Geno also regressed closer to his mean this year. Feels like a bad hire from reading the twitterverse if the idea is to keep Fields and fix him, seems that was the QBC.

I like the hire. He has 2 years playcalling experience. Geno was a garbage backup QB and he squeezed lots of improvement out of him. This is the same QB who's own HC (Rex Ryan) called him "brutal" in a direct quote.

I know they have to play the game and talk about an OC having "versatility" but this hire isn't for Fields. Its for Caleb.

The only other guy who made sense was Kubiak and he has less playcalling experience. Hiring him would have resulted in everyone saying his success in SF is all due to Shanahan.

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Post by bearsinhouston on Jan 22, 2024 8:46:06 GMT -6

I really thought we were going down the Kubiak route. I think I like this. I know he has helped develop QBs and we desperately need that. I don't know enough to know if he has developed offenses that are designed around his players rather than the other way around. I don't know if he can adjust to defenses, etc. I love the ability to make his QBs better (and maybe in the big picture, that is all part of making sure the calls are right, etc).

I keep wanting to separate the ability to make QBs better from the OC position as that is not what I believe the most important function of the OC is. But if he can do all that stuff and still make the QB better on a functional level, then hell, I am all there. In any case, if that's the guy, I'm behind him and like Alex, I'll let you know in a year if I like him or not. It's a WHOLE lot better than what we had so needle is pointing in the right direction. Lets see who else they bring in. But happy to see movement.

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Post by JABF on Jan 22, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -6

I do like the fact that the Bears went with an experienced play-caller coach and not some young rookie OC. My take on Waldron is that he will be good if the Bears give him the talent to succeed. He needs to bring in a solid staff on offense too. Without that the offense won't be much here. My first thought was that he hasn't had a top-tier QB to work with yet. If the Bears do draft Caleb it will be interesting to watch what this guy can do with a Tier-1 quarterback versus the guys he's had in the past (definitely b-types of QBs).

The Bears need to build the complete package on offense if they want to stop the failures. The OC is an important piece but only one piece of a more complex entity. Gotta get the QB right, OL right, position coaches right, skill players right... you get the drift. Total package is needed to be right. Bears have never done that in decades here. Time to fix that and go all-in on offense. riczaj01 I think this is what you were talking about a year ago. The defense can take the back seat for a season and let the O ride in the front this year. Let's get this thing (finally) fixed.

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Bears to hire Shane Waldron new OC Jan 22, 2024 10:03:41 GMT -6 JABF likes this

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Jan 22, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -6 JABF said:

I do like the fact that the Bears went with an experienced play-caller coach and not some young rookie OC. My take on Waldron is that he will be good if the Bears give him the talent to succeed. He needs to bring in a solid staff on offense too. Without that the offense won't be much here. My first thought was that he hasn't had a top-tier QB to work with yet. If the Bears do draft Caleb it will be interesting to watch what this guy can do with a Tier-1 quarterback versus the guys he's had in the past (definitely b-types of QBs).

The Bears need to build the complete package on offense if they want to stop the failures. The OC is an important piece but only one piece of a more complex entity. Gotta get the QB right, OL right, position coaches right, skill players right... you get the drift. Total package is needed to be right. Bears have never done that in decades here. Time to fix that and go all-in on offense. riczaj01 I think this is what you were talking about a year ago. The defense can take the back seat for a season and let the O ride in the front this year. Let's get this thing (finally) fixed.

Totally with you. Let's see who they think is the right QB. And can't wait to see who they bring in as QB coach, etc. Lot's of change happening on the O side. It's exciting. Hopefully will end up better than our usual overhauls. And hopefully someone was "helping" Flus make his coordinator choices. He missed badly on both last time

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Jan 22, 2024 10:03:41 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 22, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -6 JABF said:

I do like the fact that the Bears went with an experienced play-caller coach and not some young rookie OC. My take on Waldron is that he will be good if the Bears give him the talent to succeed. He needs to bring in a solid staff on offense too. Without that the offense won't be much here. My first thought was that he hasn't had a top-tier QB to work with yet. If the Bears do draft Caleb it will be interesting to watch what this guy can do with a Tier-1 quarterback versus the guys he's had in the past (definitely b-types of QBs).

The Bears need to build the complete package on offense if they want to stop the failures. The OC is an important piece but only one piece of a more complex entity. Gotta get the QB right, OL right, position coaches right, skill players right... you get the drift. Total package is needed to be right. Bears have never done that in decades here. Time to fix that and go all-in on offense. riczaj01 I think this is what you were talking about a year ago. The defense can take the back seat for a season and let the O ride in the front this year. Let's get this thing (finally) fixed.

Totally with you. Let's see who they think is the right QB. And can't wait to see who they bring in as QB coach, etc. Lot's of change happening on the O side. It's exciting. Hopefully will end up better than our usual overhauls. And hopefully someone was "helping" Flus make his coordinator choices. He missed badly on both last time

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And regardless of which way they go on QB1, they need to go all-in to support that guy. People make fun of me saying how you don't get "perfect" support for a QB. That is right. But the team needs to do everything in their power to get the best coach/player talent on that unit now. Let's end the futility here in Chicago regarding offense. Really, this is similar to any business. If you make a half-ass attempt at success, then guess what the outcome will be? Probably not a stellar outcome.

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Bears to hire Shane Waldron new OC Jan 22, 2024 10:32:13 GMT -6 JABF likes this

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Jan 22, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -6 JABF said:

I do like the fact that the Bears went with an experienced play-caller coach and not some young rookie OC. My take on Waldron is that he will be good if the Bears give him the talent to succeed. He needs to bring in a solid staff on offense too. Without that the offense won't be much here. My first thought was that he hasn't had a top-tier QB to work with yet. If the Bears do draft Caleb it will be interesting to watch what this guy can do with a Tier-1 quarterback versus the guys he's had in the past (definitely b-types of QBs).

The Bears need to build the complete package on offense if they want to stop the failures. The OC is an important piece but only one piece of a more complex entity. Gotta get the QB right, OL right, position coaches right, skill players right... you get the drift. Total package is needed to be right. Bears have never done that in decades here. Time to fix that and go all-in on offense. riczaj01 I think this is what you were talking about a year ago. The defense can take the back seat for a season and let the O ride in the front this year. Let's get this thing (finally) fixed.

Poles might ask Waldron whether he wants Fields+Harrison or Williams+whatever WR is there at #9.

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Bears to hire Shane Waldron new OC Jan 22, 2024 10:34:16 GMT -6

Post by dachuckster on Jan 22, 2024 10:34:16 GMT -6

Jan 22, 2024 10:32:13 GMT -6 davidl said:

Jan 22, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -6 JABF said:

I do like the fact that the Bears went with an experienced play-caller coach and not some young rookie OC. My take on Waldron is that he will be good if the Bears give him the talent to succeed. He needs to bring in a solid staff on offense too. Without that the offense won't be much here. My first thought was that he hasn't had a top-tier QB to work with yet. If the Bears do draft Caleb it will be interesting to watch what this guy can do with a Tier-1 quarterback versus the guys he's had in the past (definitely b-types of QBs).

The Bears need to build the complete package on offense if they want to stop the failures. The OC is an important piece but only one piece of a more complex entity. Gotta get the QB right, OL right, position coaches right, skill players right... you get the drift. Total package is needed to be right. Bears have never done that in decades here. Time to fix that and go all-in on offense. riczaj01 I think this is what you were talking about a year ago. The defense can take the back seat for a season and let the O ride in the front this year. Let's get this thing (finally) fixed.

Poles might ask Waldron whether he wants Fields+Harrison or Williams+whatever WR is there at #9.

Most of the analysis I am seeing on the various platforms is this indicates that they will stick with Fields. Obviously, we have to wait a while to know for sure.

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Jan 22, 2024 10:32:13 GMT -6 davidl said:

Jan 22, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -6 JABF said:

I do like the fact that the Bears went with an experienced play-caller coach and not some young rookie OC. My take on Waldron is that he will be good if the Bears give him the talent to succeed. He needs to bring in a solid staff on offense too. Without that the offense won't be much here. My first thought was that he hasn't had a top-tier QB to work with yet. If the Bears do draft Caleb it will be interesting to watch what this guy can do with a Tier-1 quarterback versus the guys he's had in the past (definitely b-types of QBs).

The Bears need to build the complete package on offense if they want to stop the failures. The OC is an important piece but only one piece of a more complex entity. Gotta get the QB right, OL right, position coaches right, skill players right... you get the drift. Total package is needed to be right. Bears have never done that in decades here. Time to fix that and go all-in on offense. riczaj01 I think this is what you were talking about a year ago. The defense can take the back seat for a season and let the O ride in the front this year. Let's get this thing (finally) fixed.

Poles might ask Waldron whether he wants Fields+Harrison or Williams+whatever WR is there at #9.

Oh, I'm sure that question was beat to death during his interview.

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