I will be watching him at the combine today. I hope he doesn’t look too good, because he’s already a risk to go higher than #9. I think there are a couple others worth taking in second round. I REALLY want Powers-Johnson more than any WR likely there at #9.
A) I think there's gonna be 4 QBs drafted in the top-10. You know who they are. So Odunze or Nabors has a real shot to reach #9 IMO. B) I also think that you draft WR or Edge at #9, not C. High-impact positions only in the top-10 with very rare exception for me.
Boy, MP... I'm not sure of that. I mean I get why you would say that, but these drafts are so squirrely. Not sure 4 QBs will go in the top 10. It sure may happen. I'm not going to say it won't because until it happens, I won't know. I am thinking three is probably more of a safe bet, but even that is not certain. If only three (could be less too), you have 6 picks before ours (assuming Poles does not move down). I think there are 4 real receiving threats. 3 WRs and one TE. There sure may be a DE in there, but again... maybe not. Teams may in fact go through all 4 receiving threats in those 6 picks. The math says it's possible even though maybe not something I would bet on. The point is, that even with 4 QBs taken, the math still says all 4 could be gone so you can't count it out. I do agree with you that if we stay at 9, we go WR, assuming the right one is there over a C. We need a C and it would be stupid not to get on one board either through FA or draft (or both).
Now, if all the WRs are gone (or the ones that Poles wants are gone), there could be a DT or DE that we could use, but I bet at that point Poles moves down and gets picks. With no picks in the 2nd, he may move down regardless. Just not sure what the dude will do.
A) I think there's gonna be 4 QBs drafted in the top-10. You know who they are. So Odunze or Nabors has a real shot to reach #9 IMO. B) I also think that you draft WR or Edge at #9, not C. High-impact positions only in the top-10 with very rare exception for me.
Boy, MP... I'm not sure of that. I mean I get why you would say that, but these drafts are so squirrely. Not sure 4 QBs will go in the top 10. It sure may happen. I'm not going to say it won't because until it happens, I won't know. I am thinking three is probably more of a safe bet, but even that is not certain. If only three (could be less too), you have 6 picks before ours (assuming Poles does not move down). I think there are 4 real receiving threats. 3 WRs and one TE. There sure may be a DE in there, but again... maybe not. Teams may in fact go through all 4 receiving threats in those 6 picks. The math says it's possible even though maybe not something I would bet on. The point is, that even with 4 QBs taken, the math still says all 4 could be gone so you can't count it out. I do agree with you that if we stay at 9, we go WR, assuming the right one is there over a C. We need a C and it would be stupid not to get on one board either through FA or draft (or both).
Now, if all the WRs are gone (or the ones that Poles wants are gone), there could be a DT or DE that we could use, but I bet at that point Poles moves down and gets picks. With no picks in the 2nd, he may move down regardless. Just not sure what the dude will do.
Not sure of anything. Said that's what I thought.
Yeah I could see 4 QBs in the top-10. Someone's definitely taking McCarthy in the 1st--coaches LOVE him. There's 8-10 teams who need a new/different QB.
That means you just need 2 other players getting picked before us to push one of the top-3 WRs to 9. Could be OTs, Edges, or even a CB in there. Maybe Bowers too.
If he is the same heights as Rogers, I no longer see any obstacles to winning the next SB!
weneedmorelinemen texted me that if his arms had measured 1/8" longer it would have been a done-deal as far as 2024 Super Bowl win. I wonder if he grows those painted fingernails longer - will THAT count for his arm length?
I just saw the only combine stat that matters with regard to Caleb Williams future success in the NFL.
32" long arms.
This will deal untold damage to his future NFL prospects.
Spent another night watching Caleb play. Getting ready to head for bed now... but there is a lot to like about his game. I think what I most like about his game:
1. He sees the field really well. He keeps his eyes downfield scanning and seeing almost everything unfold. 2. He throws with nice touch on the ball. He can take some heat off of the ball to throw a more catchable pass. 3. He can work well from the pocket when he has a pocket. 4. He makes (mostly) good decisions... football smart.
Will the Bears give him what he needs as far as OL and WR/TE talent? I think that's the make-or-break factor for him. Will they provide top-tier talent around him, or not? His floor looks to me like it is at least where Fields is right now. I don't know how he could do worse than Fields. He looks mighty good to me. With good coaching, play-calling and supporting talent, his ceiling could be mighty high. I don't doubt him as much as I doubt the Bears being able to set him up for success. Not saying they won't, but just saying I'll breathe easier if Poles follows through with supporting talent - and Shane Walron can help Caleb reach his ceiling with that surrounding talent.
Boy, MP... I'm not sure of that. I mean I get why you would say that, but these drafts are so squirrely. Not sure 4 QBs will go in the top 10. It sure may happen. I'm not going to say it won't because until it happens, I won't know. I am thinking three is probably more of a safe bet, but even that is not certain. If only three (could be less too), you have 6 picks before ours (assuming Poles does not move down). I think there are 4 real receiving threats. 3 WRs and one TE. There sure may be a DE in there, but again... maybe not. Teams may in fact go through all 4 receiving threats in those 6 picks. The math says it's possible even though maybe not something I would bet on. The point is, that even with 4 QBs taken, the math still says all 4 could be gone so you can't count it out. I do agree with you that if we stay at 9, we go WR, assuming the right one is there over a C. We need a C and it would be stupid not to get on one board either through FA or draft (or both).
Now, if all the WRs are gone (or the ones that Poles wants are gone), there could be a DT or DE that we could use, but I bet at that point Poles moves down and gets picks. With no picks in the 2nd, he may move down regardless. Just not sure what the dude will do.
Not sure of anything. Said that's what I thought.
Yeah I could see 4 QBs in the top-10. Someone's definitely taking McCarthy in the 1st--coaches LOVE him. There's 8-10 teams who need a new/different QB.
That means you just need 2 other players getting picked before us to push one of the top-3 WRs to 9. Could be OTs, Edges, or even a CB in there. Maybe Bowers too.
I’m not as sure about McCarthy as you are. It can go so many different ways. I’m kind of surprised that the draft is still getting more attention than FA when it is just 11 days away. Only 9 days if you count the legal tampering period? Don’t we want to beat that horse for a while and then start on the draft corpse again after that?
weneedmorelinemen texted me that if his arms had measured 1/8" longer it would have been a done-deal as far as 2024 Super Bowl win. I wonder if he grows those painted fingernails longer - will THAT count for his arm length?
I just saw the only combine stat that matters with regard to Caleb Williams future success in the NFL.
32" long arms.
This will deal untold damage to his future NFL prospects.
LOL. On a serious note (you've made me nuts about the arm thing... crazier than I already am), and I did look over the arm lengths on the QB's this year. Other than Penix, I think all of the top QBs this year have around 32" or shorter arm length. Nix is at 31" and Caleb, Maye & McCarthy are all at 32" with Penix at 33 5/8. Maye & McCarthy have tiny 9" hands.
weneedmorelinemen texted me that if his arms had measured 1/8" longer it would have been a done-deal as far as 2024 Super Bowl win. I wonder if he grows those painted fingernails longer - will THAT count for his arm length?
I just saw the only combine stat that matters with regard to Caleb Williams future success in the NFL.
32" long arms.
This will deal untold damage to his future NFL prospects.
Spent another night watching Caleb play. Getting ready to head for bed now... but there is a lot to like about his game. I think what I most like about his game:
1. He sees the field really well. He keeps his eyes downfield scanning and seeing almost everything unfold. 2. He throws with nice touch on the ball. He can take some heat off of the ball to throw a more catchable pass. 3. He can work well from the pocket when he has a pocket. 4. He makes (mostly) good decisions... football smart.
Will the Bears give him what he needs as far as OL and WR/TE talent? I think that's the make-or-break factor for him. Will they provide top-tier talent around him, or not? His floor looks to me like it is at least where Fields is right now. I don't know how he could do worse than Fields. He looks mighty good to me. With good coaching, play-calling and supporting talent, his ceiling could be mighty high. I don't doubt him as much as I doubt the Bears being able to set him up for success. Not saying they won't, but just saying I'll breathe easier if Poles follows through with supporting talent - and Shane Walron can help Caleb reach his ceiling with that surrounding talent.
A couple of comments there JABF. Your concern about whether or not the team will provide what he needs to succeed is well warranted because we saw how not having that affected Fields and QBs before him. All QBs need that, especially rookies. If you provide him with those things, it will help him succeed. Same with Fields. Give him those things and it will help him succeed. Second is your comparing Williams college game to Fields NFL game. I do not believe that is fair. Since Williams has no NFL game to compare to Fields NFL game, you need to compare both of their college game to try and project their floor and ceiling compared to each other.
On a follow-up to my previous post a few minutes ago, the big difference between Caleb and Fields is how much better CW sees the field. Watching his eyes scan the field is pretty cool. He takes in the entire field quickly (you can watch his eyes/head do the "quick scan" and it sure looks like he has an elite mental processor. Many times (a lot) he will go through progressions twice and find the open player on the second scan. That is impressive stuff. In that area he is superior to Fields. His NFL draft profile (LINK) says he has a weakness "Eyes can become sticky and sluggish working through progressions" but I don't see that. I just think that sometimes he's giving a receiver a heartbeat of time to get to his spot... but maybe I'm missing something there.
If the Bears are truly moving on from Fields, then this is our guy. Some of the talking heads today are trying to pump up Jayden Daniels (he is an impressive dude too). But Caleb looks (overall) as the better QB to me. I think Maye is a solid guy too, but again, not at the level of Caleb... at least the more I watch CW's play, the more confident I am that he is the best QB in this draft class.
