True, but how hard is it to get an OC better than Getsy?
If Poles can’t do that, it’s one more reason to fire Poles.
If they keep Flus, any good OC is going to be concerned about coming here as Flus could be fired after one more bad season and the whole staff could be turned over.
Maybe... OR, if a new OC makes a heck of a job, he would hope to get promoted to HC after Flus?
If they keep Flus, any good OC is going to be concerned about coming here as Flus could be fired after one more bad season and the whole staff could be turned over.
That would be a factor potential OC candidates would consider. But if the team continues to look like an ascending young team, and an OC candidate truly believes in Fields ceiling being high with the 2024 upgrade in the draft (Marvin Harrison Jr paired with DJ Moore and Cole Kmet... with solid OL upgraded at C), then a guy may see Chicago as an opportunity to prove himself and get to a HC job. This could be a dynamite opportunity - if - they see this team for what it could be in 2024 and beyond.
True and yet sadly the carousel of OC’s would continue. If we reset the HC (hiring an offense driven one), then hopefully we can bring stability to the coaching positions, assuming we hire the right one…
If they keep Flus, any good OC is going to be concerned about coming here as Flus could be fired after one more bad season and the whole staff could be turned over.
Maybe... OR, if a new OC makes a heck of a job, he would hope to get promoted to HC after Flus?
Or he leaves and goes elsewhere unless he gets some guarantees in place.
That would be a factor potential OC candidates would consider. But if the team continues to look like an ascending young team, and an OC candidate truly believes in Fields ceiling being high with the 2024 upgrade in the draft (Marvin Harrison Jr paired with DJ Moore and Cole Kmet... with solid OL upgraded at C), then a guy may see Chicago as an opportunity to prove himself and get to a HC job. This could be a dynamite opportunity - if - they see this team for what it could be in 2024 and beyond.
True and yet sadly the carousel of OC’s would continue. If we reset the HC (hiring an offense driven one), then hopefully we can bring stability to the coaching positions, assuming we hire the right one…
That is a good and valid point. In recent days I have been thinking about the controversy of the importance of the HC background (of offense vs defense background). I wanted to run this by you folks here on our message board in regards to this. I have been thinking that by the time a coach gets a head coach position he has been successful (highly successful) for a number of years. Otherwise he would not get the HC job. I think fans look at these guys, mistakenly, as not knowing the “other side of the ball”. LOL. That is crazy thinking right? If you spend much of your adult life putting the other side if the ball under a microscope when you’re game planning you have to have an immense knowledge of the “other side” right?
If that is the case I would think a great coach must be a great coach. He is able to set up his schemes for O and D and bring in the coordinator to run each unit. It’s not like the guy is brain dead about one side of football.
True and yet sadly the carousel of OC’s would continue. If we reset the HC (hiring an offense driven one), then hopefully we can bring stability to the coaching positions, assuming we hire the right one…
That is a good and valid point. In recent days I have been thinking about the controversy of the importance of the HC background (of offense vs defense background). I wanted to run this by you folks here on our message board in regards to this. I have been thinking that by the time a coach gets a head coach position he has been successful (highly successful) for a number of years. Otherwise he would not get the HC job. I think fans look at these guys, mistakenly, as not knowing the “other side of the ball”. LOL. That is crazy thinking right? If you spend much of your adult life putting the other side if the ball under a microscope when you’re game planning you have to have an immense knowledge of the “other side” right?
If that is the case I would think a great coach must be a great coach. He is able to set up his schemes for O and D and bring in the coordinator to run each unit. It’s not like the guy is brain dead about one side of football.
True. I was in procurement for 42 years. And while I had constant day to day interaction with sales….I wouldn’t consider what they did my area of expertise. I couldn’t do what they did, nor could they do what I did. We probably all thought we could, but reality is different.🤣🤣
Some people are just pure leaders. The type you’re willing to go to war with. May not have any specific expertise, but they just know how to lead. You have to be willing to surround yourself with the best staff possible to be successful. It sound’s easy but it’s not as most people (IMO) have some level of insecurity holding them back. Or you have someone with the smartest guy in the room syndrome. They’re never wrong, don’t accept fault or blame and it’s always someone else’s fault.
Obviously Flus can coach the defense. Does he know the other side? Sure. The question is can he take his vision and hire the right guy to fulfill it.
Some people are just pure leaders. The type you’re willing to go to war with. May not have any specific expertise, but they just know how to lead. You have to be willing to surround yourself with the best staff possible to be successful.
+1 I think you've hit on it there. Honestly, I wish the Bears had hired an offensive guy when they hired Eberflus. But maybe Eberflus can be that leader anyway and surround himself with the best staff possible. In hindsight, Getsy wasn't the guy we needed on offense. But I can see how he looked like a great OC candidate when hired here. I was excited about the Getsy hire. But he just didn't turn out as expected. He didn't set up our QB1 to succeed (some of those early game plans were outrageously bad) and his play calling is not what it needs to be. I think we all agree on that. But instead of firing everyone, it may be best at this point to reload with another OC. Eberflus does seem that guy the players are willing to follow through hellish circumstances... this season would have had teams quit on most HCs. But this team seems to trust and believe in Eberflus. If that trust survived THIS season then that says a lot about his leadership qualities. JMO.
Some people are just pure leaders. The type you’re willing to go to war with. May not have any specific expertise, but they just know how to lead. You have to be willing to surround yourself with the best staff possible to be successful.
+1 I think you've hit on it there. Honestly, I wish the Bears had hired an offensive guy when they hired Eberflus. But maybe Eberflus can be that leader anyway and surround himself with the best staff possible. In hindsight, Getsy wasn't the guy we needed on offense. But I can see how he looked like a great OC candidate when hired here. I was excited about the Getsy hire. But he just didn't turn out as expected. He didn't set up our QB1 to succeed (some of those early game plans were outrageously bad) and his play calling is not what it needs to be. I think we all agree on that. But instead of firing everyone, it may be best at this point to reload with another OC. Eberflus does seem that guy the players are willing to follow through hellish circumstances... this season would have had teams quit on most HCs. But this team seems to trust and believe in Eberflus. If that trust survived THIS season then that says a lot about his leadership qualities. JMO.
Agree 100%. The Bears are really in a tough place with a OC who isn’t it and a qb1 who is still a question mark and they need to decide on exercising his option on.
