All, here are projected FT numbers. Maybe it might not be a bad idea to look at FT'ing AJ again. That would take 15.8M out of a projected 72M (if certain cuts are made) which still leaves 55M. And the CAP according to this article is set to rise to 168M. Just sayin....
The NFL’s salary cap for 2017 won’t officially be set until sometime after the Super Bowl, but based on the direction the cap has trended in recent years, we have a general idea of where it may end up. Predicting an increase of about 8.2% on this year’s $155.27MM cap, Joel Corry of CBSSports.com projects a 2017 cap of $168MM, and uses that figure to get a sense of what next year’s franchise-tag figures would look like. Although the 2017 cap isn’t yet confirmed, Corry has confirmed the amounts necessary to perform calculations using the franchise-tag formula. So while the official amounts may end up looking a little different, these should be pretty close.
Here are the non-exclusive franchise tag amounts projected by Corry, using a presumed cap of $168M for 2017: •Quarterback: $21.395MM •Running back: $12.377MM •Wide receiver: $15.826MM •Tight end: $9.894MM •Offensive line: $14.444MM •Defensive end: $16.955MM •Defensive tackle: $13.468MM •Linebacker: $14.754MM •Cornerback: $14.297MM •Safety: $10.961MM •Punter/kicker: $4.863MM
All, here are projected FT numbers. Maybe it might not be a bad idea to look at FT'ing AJ again. That would take 15.8M out of a projected 72M (if certain cuts are made) which still leaves 55M. And the CAP according to this article is set to rise to 168M. Just sayin....
The NFL’s salary cap for 2017 won’t officially be set until sometime after the Super Bowl, but based on the direction the cap has trended in recent years, we have a general idea of where it may end up. Predicting an increase of about 8.2% on this year’s $155.27MM cap, Joel Corry of CBSSports.com projects a 2017 cap of $168MM, and uses that figure to get a sense of what next year’s franchise-tag figures would look like. Although the 2017 cap isn’t yet confirmed, Corry has confirmed the amounts necessary to perform calculations using the franchise-tag formula. So while the official amounts may end up looking a little different, these should be pretty close.
Here are the non-exclusive franchise tag amounts projected by Corry, using a presumed cap of $168M for 2017: •Quarterback: $21.395MM •Running back: $12.377MM •Wide receiver: $15.826MM •Tight end: $9.894MM •Offensive line: $14.444MM •Defensive end: $16.955MM •Defensive tackle: $13.468MM •Linebacker: $14.754MM •Cornerback: $14.297MM •Safety: $10.961MM •Punter/kicker: $4.863MM
I believe it would be a higher number since it would be the second time AJ would be franchised. Something like 20% more than the non-exclusive number...so more like around 17 or 18 mill for AJ to be tagged this off season. If that happened AJ will have made a combined 32 mill guaranteed. That would put him on par with the total guarantees that Julio, Dez, and DT got. But yeah...sure...let's tag him again because it's so financially prudent...SMH.
All, here are projected FT numbers. Maybe it might not be a bad idea to look at FT'ing AJ again. That would take 15.8M out of a projected 72M (if certain cuts are made) which still leaves 55M. And the CAP according to this article is set to rise to 168M. Just sayin....
The NFL’s salary cap for 2017 won’t officially be set until sometime after the Super Bowl, but based on the direction the cap has trended in recent years, we have a general idea of where it may end up. Predicting an increase of about 8.2% on this year’s $155.27MM cap, Joel Corry of CBSSports.com projects a 2017 cap of $168MM, and uses that figure to get a sense of what next year’s franchise-tag figures would look like. Although the 2017 cap isn’t yet confirmed, Corry has confirmed the amounts necessary to perform calculations using the franchise-tag formula. So while the official amounts may end up looking a little different, these should be pretty close.
Here are the non-exclusive franchise tag amounts projected by Corry, using a presumed cap of $168M for 2017: •Quarterback: $21.395MM •Running back: $12.377MM •Wide receiver: $15.826MM •Tight end: $9.894MM •Offensive line: $14.444MM •Defensive end: $16.955MM •Defensive tackle: $13.468MM •Linebacker: $14.754MM •Cornerback: $14.297MM •Safety: $10.961MM •Punter/kicker: $4.863MM
I believe it would be a higher number since it would be the second time AJ would be franchised. Something like 20% more than the non-exclusive number...so more like around 17 or 18 mill for AJ to be tagged this off season. If that happened AJ will have made a combined 32 mill guaranteed. That would put him on par with the total guarantees that Julio, Dez, and DT got. But yeah...sure...let's tag him again because it's so financially prudent...SMH.
To be fair for whatever reason his production was not there.
I believe it would be a higher number since it would be the second time AJ would be franchised. Something like 20% more than the non-exclusive number...so more like around 17 or 18 mill for AJ to be tagged this off season. If that happened AJ will have made a combined 32 mill guaranteed. That would put him on par with the total guarantees that Julio, Dez, and DT got. But yeah...sure...let's tag him again because it's so financially prudent...SMH.
To be fair for whatever reason his production was not there.
Given the lack of production and his suspension I think AJ may be hard pressed to expect top five money but there's no way to avoid a top ten type deal because if we don't pay it someone else will. Any other GM will be shrewd enough to realize not having Cutler playing for 5 weeks and then sitting out a suspension cost him quite a bit of production so it becomes an outlier now that he seems to have resolved the issues about his durability.
Butkus is correct. A second tag will cost the Bears 120% of this years tag so $14.6 mil x 120% = $17.5 mil. Given the projected increase in the cap that's affordable but is it wise? It seem to me it's fish or cut bait time here. Either you bite the bullet and you work out a longer term deal or you have to consider some kind of sign and trade deal. Much like Cutler you don't want to let a valuable asset simply walk as a FA with no compensation.
Post by Whisky Beer Bob on Dec 7, 2016 15:19:35 GMT -6
But with the suspension. Does the Team not get the lost salary back? I swear I read somewhere that if the Bears do in fact tag AJ again it would really only be like 14 and change because AJ owes 3.5mil back?
If AJ is asking for Dez type money I believe you have to let him go. He has a lack luster season again even when Cutler was back. Our WRs now know how to catch a ball.
AJ doesn't hold the cards. The Bears do.
Take what we offer or go to the Browns to get the money you want.
AJ is a great #2 but a not so good #1. His numbers were inflated thanks to Brandon Marshall.
But with the suspension. Does the Team not get the lost salary back? I swear I read somewhere that if the Bears do in fact tag AJ again it would really only be like 14 and change because AJ owes 3.5mil back?
I believe it will come in the form of a cap credit for 2016 that can be carried over to 2017. We should get one for Freeman as well although not anywhere near as large. But between the two it may add another $4 mil to the 2017 cap carry forward.
If AJ is asking for Dez type money I believe you have to let him go. He has a lack luster season again even when Cutler was back. Our WRs now know how to catch a ball.
AJ doesn't hold the cards. The Bears do.
Take what we offer or go to the Browns to get the money you want.
AJ is a great #2 but a not so good #1. His numbers were inflated thanks to Brandon Marshall.
So you'd just let him walk as a UFA getting nothing in return for one of the best WR in the NFL huh? Why bother to draft anyone if after you finally develop a player into a top guy you just let him walk? Why not just trade the picks for a bunch of cheaper vets?
The Bears don't hold all the cards either. Not when White has yet to prove he's anything more than an oft injured bust and he rest of your receiver core is mostly a collection of #3 type guys who either have had their share of injuries or are even less productive than AJ has proven he can be.
He'll get paid. The only questions are how much and by who.
If AJ is asking for Dez type money I believe you have to let him go. He has a lack luster season again even when Cutler was back. Our WRs now know how to catch a ball.
AJ doesn't hold the cards. The Bears do.
Take what we offer or go to the Browns to get the money you want.
AJ is a great #2 but a not so good #1. His numbers were inflated thanks to Brandon Marshall.
So you'd just let him walk as a UFA getting nothing in return for one of the best WR in the NFL huh? Why bother to draft anyone if after you finally develop a player into a top guy you just let him walk? Why not just trade the picks for a bunch of cheaper vets?
The Bears don't hold all the cards either. Not when White has yet to prove he's anything more than an oft injured bust and he rest of your receiver core is mostly a collection of #3 type guys who either have had their share of injuries or are even less productive than AJ has proven he can be.
He'll get paid. The only questions are how much and by who.
If someone overpays for him you get a comp pick. That's something in return. No one is going to trade for a FT player.
You can't expect teams to trade for a FT player or even a player who's overpaid with a bad contract. Remember the Cutler situation with the Titans?
Bears have a great young player in Meredith and Wilson seems to be able to do all them jump balls like Jeffery does. Sorry but we don't need AJ.