We would have won 2 more games if we had scored 1 more TD. Jag's and Indy. And 22 points only beats the Jags.
OK, so 4-5 at a minimum is probable and we're tied with the Pack and still in it right? Same record as Miami has. 22.7 is the average not the high and low and only about a point less on average than the defense has allowed not more than a TD less. That would at least show some progress not regression.
The most relevant thing in that piece is Alshon probably does not even want a contract from the Bears.
If Fox gets canned in January, Alshon would be going through his fourth coaching change in a five year career with a team that has been losing more games every passing year.
I would leave if I were him. I don't see the Bears offering the moon to him if ends up being suspended more games than he has TDs at the end of the year.
We would have won 2 more games if we had scored 1 more TD. Jag's and Indy. And 22 points only beats the Jags.
OK, so 4-5 at a minimum is probable and we're tied with the Pack and still in it right? Same record as Miami has. 22.7 is the average not the high and low and only about a point less on average than the defense has allowed not more than a TD less. That would at least show some progress not regression.
being in it at 4-5 w/this schedule isn't really being in it at all, could you make the playoffs ala Seattle back when the Bears beat them, sure but that's not really a victory in the long run.
22.7 points, the average scoring in the NFL right now is 23, that's all teams. There are 13 teams this year averaging more then that, 10 averaging more then 25.
Ya know what 22 points gets you in today's NFL? Either not to the playoffs, or 1 and done when you get there.
The most relevant thing in that piece is Alshon probably does not even want a contract from the Bears.
If Fox gets canned in January, Alshon would be going through his fourth coaching change in a five year career with a team that has been losing more games every passing year.
I would leave if I were him. I don't see the Bears offering the moon to him if ends up being suspended more games than he has TDs at the end of the year.
He will walk in FA and never look back...book it.
I don't buy that at all and never have. But again it's an issue to be settled sometime after the end of the season. What's most bizarre is why it's even mentioned in an article that places the blame on the Bears offensive woes on losing Adam Gase and that comes second to Ronsenrants ten paragraphs on AJ before he ever gets to the subject matter.
With journalistic skills like his it's little wonder his only job is as the Tribs "hatchet man" and little more than a copy cat successor to the SunTimes Jay Mariotti. There are times he makes a good point but often you have to get through 1000 words of spittle and vile to get to it. I don't see a Pulitzer Prize in his future.
The AJ negotiation will probably be somewhat like the Cutler situation now. At least some will be based on what choice to we have. He is a #1 WR even if Rosenrant would like to think he's not and he'll get #1 WR $$$ from someone if not from us. The only question is just how high that number will be. I'll wait to see how it all goes down.
OK, so 4-5 at a minimum is probable and we're tied with the Pack and still in it right? Same record as Miami has. 22.7 is the average not the high and low and only about a point less on average than the defense has allowed not more than a TD less. That would at least show some progress not regression.
being in it at 4-5 w/this schedule isn't really being in it at all, could you make the playoffs ala Seattle back when the Bears beat them, sure but that's not really a victory in the long run.
22.7 points, the average scoring in the NFL right now is 23, that's all teams. There are 13 teams this year averaging more then that, 10 averaging more then 25.
Ya know what 22 points gets you in today's NFL? Either not to the playoffs, or 1 and done when you get there.
Ric I think you've missed the entire point of the article and what I posted. The offense has regressed under Fox and Loggains. Regressed severely. They're a TD short per game of even hitting the average number of point per game.
Whether 23 points a game has us in contention or not isn't as big a issue as 15.7 won't even get you more than a single win or two and that's where we're headed. It's the flip side of Tuckers defense giving up 7 points or more per game on average. That's how horrible it actually is all on it's own and compared to no one.
The bottom line of all that is this one sentence. It was the first step in a very long line of defensive comments Fox has mad in the press and much of what's alienated him with the media and fans alike.
Remember when Fox bristled at the idea that former offensive coordinator Adam Gase took the Bears offense with him when he became head coach of the Dolphins, snapping that it’s the Bears’ offense?
Now you can add at least a half dozen or more comments including his "hot dogs in the air conditioned press box" to this and basically what you see is a HC saying "don't bug me about this stuff I have it under control" when that's about as far from the truth as you can possibly get.
All Rosenrant has done here is expose Fox again for the BS artists he is and show that his legendary talent for turnarounds was based far more on having a talented QB and OC and being in the right place at the right time after basically being booted out of Carolina for production very similar to this. We bought a myth Ric.
The McCaskys went out this time and hired Ernie Accorsi to advise them on this changeover in GM and HC and we ended up with a GM still learning on the job and an over the hill HC whose actually more of a never was than we ever expected. Like I said, we bought a myth loaded with empty promises and excuses for his failures.
The bigger question for me is what do they do now and how do they prevent the from happening still one more time?
No I get that Soul, but I think you missed what I'm saying, what Gase did/is doing isn't all that great to begin with so I really don't care.
If I had a shitty beat up rusty barely running car and someone stole it, I wouldn't bitch I'd just go get another one; even if it meant I had to take the bus for awhile.
No I get that Soul, but I think you missed what I'm saying, what Gase did/is doing isn't all that great to begin with so I really don't care.
If I had a shitty beat up rusty barely running car and someone stole it, I wouldn't bitch I'd just go get another one; even if it meant I had to take the bus for awhile.
If our offense was a car, this would be it. I think that right-front tire represents Massie.
No I get that Soul, but I think you missed what I'm saying, what Gase did/is doing isn't all that great to begin with so I really don't care.
If I had a shitty beat up rusty barely running car and someone stole it, I wouldn't bitch I'd just go get another one; even if it meant I had to take the bus for awhile.
OK, let's try it this way.
In 2015 Gase's offense was ranked what? 20th or 21st? So is it reasonable to think that much like Fangio has improved the play and ranking of his defense in year two that Gase's offense might also have improved to say 15th or maybe 12th and the difference in point production might be even greater than 7 points. It's a comparative Ric not and absolute and with Gase there was progress. With Fox/Loggains there isn't.
That's fair isn't it?
What we've gotten under Fox is a severe regression that John Fox insisted wouldn't happen with Gase gone. That was really the point Rosenrant was making and that Fox got all huffy when in the preseason he was questioned about it. The mere fact that he believed they'd be just as well off without Gase as with him is obviously another one of those things "he didn't see coming" and that what should bother everyone.
It's the same old story Ric. Fox consistently miscalculates everything from our opponents to his own team. Anywhere progress has been promised and expected all we've seen is regression. To think that any sane management or owner would not fire the guy is only possible in the crazy world of the Chicago Bears.
No I don't think that's reasonable to believe Soul, not w/the injuries, not w/the loss of Marty and Forte.
OK, you're not as convinced as I am. That's the end of it then. Anything more is just....
But I would love to know how injuries have impacted the offense that badly when Cutler had a career year in 2015 throwing to nothing but backup WRs most of the year behind an even worse patchwork OL and between them Miller and Howard have been just as productive this year as Marty and Matt.
Don't answer. We won't agree on that either. You have your fixations on them and I have mine. Mine are backed a bit more by their stats though.
