Slowly? He's rushing ahead of even that at lightning speed.
I'd say he's more like the illegitimate love child of Abe Gibron and Dave Wannstadt. Gibron couldn't coach a team of monkeys to eat bananas and Wanny had to be the worst HC at personnel management we ever had. That's what we have in John Fox so just put his old wrinkled ass out to pasture and move on.
What will delaying the inevitable prove except once again the Bears won't bite the bullet and payoff another coaching contract. They need to call up Ernie Accorsi and tell him he needs to split the two plus years they're gonna eat with them. And as for Pace I'm not sure what to do with him yet but he could well be next.
When the WR coaches can turn an UDFA former college QB with only one year of experience at WR at he college level and most of another year on the Bears PS into an extremely competent #2 WR then what does that tell us about Kevin White? I'd say it's sure as hell not poor coaching when Meredith can do what White should be able to but can't.
Then add to that the drafting of Leonard Floyd and the failure to draft a kid like Dak Prescott over an NCAA Div. II CB and a failed SS out of Miami mostly as a potential STeams guy and IMHO Pace's job shouldn't be very secure now either. The problem is the best personnel guy we had, Joe Douglas, got hired away by Philly. Maybe he should have been the guy Accorsi tabbed for GM coming from a team like Baltimore who drafts extremely well instead or an organization like NOLA who does not.
Slice it anyway you want to guys but it looks to me like we ****ed this up again.
Soul needs a little comic relief - like remembering his old gig ...( though today he sounds like the 4:00 min mark + > , when the complaining started ) .
Very frustrated up here in the northwoods. I have to live with these GB fans and at this point there isn't even a light at the end of the tunnel as the Bears cannot field even a mediocre team. The only solution for me is a good bottle of wiskey and ear plugs ! :-(
Very frustrated up here in the northwoods. I have to live with these GB fans and at this point there isn't even a light at the end of the tunnel as the Bears cannot field even a mediocre team. The only solution for me is a good bottle of wiskey and ear plugs ! :-(
Post by shortfacedbear on Oct 20, 2016 21:04:37 GMT -6
Well, I've decided to start drinking w this GB game. If Fox goes that's fine. I'd like to see Vic stay on if only one more season. I don't know Fox's strategisms are but as said it's becoming Lovie 2.0.
I figure the Bears swung for the fences and tried to "think outside the box" when they hired a highly successful CFL coach in Trestman. I'll admit that I was pretty pumped when they hired Trestman. He seemed like the anti-Lovie guy. Offensive coach, that we all had talked about wanting for the Bears. A winner of multiple CFL championships (their equivalent of super bowl victories).
Of course he was a bad coach for us.
But I actually liked that the Bears tried to break out of the mediocrity of Lovie and swung for the fences there. At least they tried. Us fans were so happy at first. Most of us (me included) were ecstatic with the hire.
Then when Trestman failed we all turned to the pitchforks and torches.
It was all the McCaskey's fault. They should sell the franchise. And on and on. It's what fans do. We have 20-20 hindsight.
Once the team was in the toilet bowl after Emery/Trestman, the Bears hire the anti-Trestman guy. A veteran "safe" pick in John Fox. Most (not all but most) fans were pretty happy with that pick. I was. The team was a mess at that point, and I figured that even if Fox couldn't get us to a super bowl, he could at least help straighten up the mess. I figured it would take a respected veteran coach to do that - and Fox's past players seemed to like and respect him. We had a locker room mess after Trestman left... we could use a dose of a respected veteran to right the ship.
Of course it didn't happen that way.
So now the fans are grabbing the pitchforks and torches again. You read the hateful fan reaction now towards Fox. But in all honesty, I thought the hire (at the time) seemed like a good one. At least I could see the logic in the choice of a solid veteran to try and clean up the Trestman mess. And I liked the idea (very much) of going back to having a stellar defense again. Monsters of the Midway on defense again.
I liked having Gase and Fangio as coordinators too.
I figured one of the advantages of having a respected veteran head coach like John Fox here, was that you didn't have to have 2nd rate coordinators like Mel Tucker around. We could attract guys like Gase and Fangio - two of the best coordinators in the NFL in my humble opinion.
Fox gave us that quality with his presence here as head coach.
But the problem was Gase gets the HC gig in Miami and we are left with Loggains right now. And we really don't have the players yet to power-up the schemes properly on offense or defense (not full power anyway... and not with the injuries to many key starters).
Our starting QB has been injured for multiple games and we have a backup guy with a noodle arm trying to run the O. It's not working. We can't score points. Fans are pissed. You still read occasional posts (on the old board) that the McCaskey's should sell the franchise. Heads should roll. Etc. Etc. Etc.
I understand the fan and sports media anger and disappointment. I'm disappointed too. But I just think the rebuilding of the Bears franchise is tougher than what we first realized. Add in a few misses in the draft and free agency to the mix. And a few GM misfires by the rookie GM, and it all adds up to a tough situation.
One thing that makes me shake my head is when fan boils a very complicated situation with many causation factors - they boil it all down to one factor being the cause of it all. It's all on Cutler, or Pace, or Fox, or Hoyer or (just fill in the blank). In reality we are in our present situation due to a LOT of factors coming together in a perfect storm. Believe me. Getting rid of Cutler won't solve our woes. Or Hoyer. Or even firing John Fox.
None of these things in a vacuum will magically make the Bears into the Patriots.
There is a lot wrong with the team. Kind of like the Cubs when they were a shit team for so long. It does take some time to completely turn the ship around.
And people are wanting Fox fired now. I don't argue about that thought. But who is "The Guy" you bring in here? Of course fans will yap about crazy hires like "Hire the Chin" or (just fill in the blank). Those guys are NOT coming here. It's not happening. So who DO you hire? Realistically?
And what if we hire a guy who wants totally different schemes again? Like wanting a 4-3 defense. How about them apples? Years more to revamp the roster to fit what the NEW guy wants. I'm not staying that's bad. I'm just saying it's gonna be a long haul with no Mike Tice pixie dust fixes here. But all the fans want is to just fire somebody and it will all be "good" here. LOL.
That is the major concern I have if we do fire Fox what kind of scheme does the new guy bring?
Does it matter? We don't seem to have any scheme or a plan now so let's be surprised.
Would everyone in favor of keeping Fox please raise your hands. We'll be passing out tickets to the coin flip to decide whether we get the top overall pick or Cleveland does.