Olin, Briggs and Tillman all just outside of the top 25. Forte and Anderson sitting pretty close to eachother, Forte just slightly ahead.
Forte was the better of the two IMHO. Matt was a great pick in the 2nd round. He worked hard and was a versatile RB. A grinder throughout his career. As some have pointed out, a young Forte would have been good in a Nagy offense.
Safety, Gary Fencik, at #30 was always a guy I liked to watch play. Classy guy too. Smart. Made the most of his modest physical skills and had a great career here. Always loved this picture of him with Walter and Matt Suhey.
Loved his nickname too, "The Hit Man" which fit him perfectly. Lethal safety.
Post by brasilbear on May 23, 2019 10:53:47 GMT -6
These lists are complicated. I can't speak to any player before I because sports conscious somewhere around 1984.
Having said that I'm not sure why McKennon is higher that Jeffery and Marshall. I liked McKennon but he wasn't in their class as a wr. Maybe I'm missing something, which could be because I'm in a Peruvian DMV waiting for a blood test.
These lists are complicated. I can't speak to any player before I because sports conscious somewhere around 1984.
Having said that I'm not sure why McKennon is higher that Jeffery and Marshall. I liked McKennon but he wasn't in their class as a wr. Maybe I'm missing something, which could be because I'm in a Peruvian DMV waiting for a blood test.
If you think Pro Football Reference's AV rating has any credibility, they agree with you. BMarsh had an AV of 105 and SilkyD had an AV of 32. With the AV, the bigger the number the better.
If you really have nothing to do for a couple of hours you can find the methodology behind PFR's AV stat here.
Post by MartianBearsFan on May 23, 2019 18:58:18 GMT -6
It was an odd list in some aspects. But one thing that is sad is that Bears had a lot of RB, LB and other players who different positions in the HOF. But just one QB in the HOF. Truth be told, I'm not surprised that Walter is #1.
50: Mark Bortz 49: Ray Bray 48: Fred Williams 47: Dave Duerson 46: Doug Buffone 45: Otis Wilson 44: Johnny Morris 43: Wilber Marshall 42: Richie Petitbon 41: Neal Anderson 40: Ken Kavanaugh 39: Harlon Hill 38: Link Lyman 37: George Halas 36: Red Grange 35: George Musso 34: Matt Forte 33: George Trafton 32: Paddy Driscoll 31: Charles Tillman 30: Gary Fencik 29: Rick Casares 28: Lance Briggs 27: Olin Kreutz 26: Ed Healy 25: Ed Sprinkle
I think the ranking of Grange is close to accurate. From what I have read, he was an excellet RB at the time but not like Sweetness. In reality he brought attention to the NFL.
So many good memories come to mind when I go down this list of Bears players. My favorite Bear of all time is on the list at #70, fullback Matt Suhey. I've included a video here of him blocking for Payton - but it also has many of the players on this top-100 list. It's a 1983 game against the Vikings and the Bears had not beaten the Vikes in Minny in like forever - until this game. There is a lot of talk about the 1985 Bears Super Bowl year, but that '85 Bears team really began two years before... watch it here in '83. I bring this up due to the fact we are all expecting great things this season, but it may be that the Bears need another year to hit its stride for winning a SB. Obviously you never know.
I also liked how Matt Suhey stuck by Walter until the end, when Sweetness died. I loved this article, "Still watching out for Walter - Suhey paved way for Payton, and stepped in when friend's family needed him most" - LINK
Post by dachuckster on May 27, 2019 8:59:02 GMT -6
I was reading some about the older guys who seem to dominate the 10 - 15 of Bears all time players.
#4 Sid Luckman QB/P/DB 1939-1943,1945-1950
Sid was one of the very first passing QBs. Part of the first wave of passing QBs that revolutionized NFL football. Holds the NFL record for 7 passing TDs in one game. Had two other games where he threw for 5 TDs. Even among today's inflated passing numbers he would be a statistical leader (at leas in passing TDs per game). In the 1943 NFL championship game against the Redskins, he was 15 out of 26 for 286 yds, 5 TDs and 0 Int. QBR of 135.0 He also played two ways as a DB and intercepted the Washington QB Sammy Baugh twice.
But on Memorial Day, I would like him to be remembered as a coxswain (driver/pilot) of a landing craft in the Normandy D-Day invasion where he made repeated trips between the troop transport ships and the beaches. Link