www.chicagobears.com/news/ranking-best-bears-of-all-time-nos-76-100 100-76 counting down Pat Manelly Doug Plank Trace Armstrong Bobby Joe Green Eddie Jackson(current Bear, seems to soon) Larry Morris Jim Dooley Hermen Lee Bill Osmanski Bob Wetoska Beattie Feathers(seems low) Mike Pyle Joey Sternaman Luke Johnsos Allen Ellis Jay Culter (made the list!) 1 qb behind him Tom Thayer (seems low) Willie Gault George Blanda Brandon Marshal(seems high) Alshon Jeffery(should be behind Marshal) Dennis McKinnon Donnell Wooford Bennie McRae JC Caroline
So 670, well Bernstein and therefore the others had to fall in line, lost their shit about Cutler being 48 since he is the all time leader in stats. They had Pompie on and asked about it.
He pointed out that he did next to nothing in the playoffs, had a .500 record(even w/some really good Defenses) and that most of his stats come from the era he played in being so qb friendly. He was one of the most talented QB's in Chicago history, but he really never maximized that. The other qb's tended to get the most out of themselves and their teams.
I think a point could be made about Marshal/Jeffery being ahead of him, but I think you could easily have Plank, Feathers ahead of him, and imo Armstrong should be ahead of him.
Post by paytonisgod on May 21, 2019 15:25:31 GMT -6
As per usual everyone remembers what they want to about Cutler and conveniently forgets everything else if it doesn't fit their narrative. It's why talking about him is so tedious.
As per usual everyone remembers what they want to about Cutler and conveniently forgets everything else if it doesn't fit their narrative. It's why talking about him is so tedious.
ranking top 100 players is tedious; add in a guy that is controversial, and rightfully so as he was at times great and at time the opposite. Heard a bit of Bernstein on the radio before i moved on, he said he was likely well trolled by the Bears and this entire thing was a great way to keep them in the news.
Reality is it's impossible to rank 100 players for a team that has players since before our fathers were born, possibly fathers fathers. 98 years, and their glory years were mostly before the 50's during their hayday. It's an exercise in futility as the majority of their best players were on teams no one working on a list were alive to see. So now it's at best a top 50, and the majority of that is taken up by the 63, 85 and 06 SB appearing teams. Now maybe a top 20 or 25. And you have to put Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Hester, Gould, Cutler, Marshal, Jeffery, Kruetz, Long and so many others.
Maybe he should have been 70, but it's really not that far off when you think about it as a hole; and it's opinion based on that. if this team succeeds in getting to another SB and Trubs turns out to be a legit qb, Cutlers inability to win and make playoff runs will drop him on that list even if he should have been higher.
Off Cutler for a minute, really don't get Beattie being this low on the list. From Wiki:
NFL career Feathers played professional football in the National Football League (NFL) with the Chicago Bears, Brooklyn Dodgers, and Green Bay Packers from 1934 to 1940.
In his rookie season of 1934 he became the first player in NFL history to rush for over 1,000 yards in one season.[2] His average of 8.44 yards per attempt that same year remains an NFL record (minimum 100 carries).
As of 2019, his 91.3 yards / game is also a Bears rookie franchise record.
Feathers is one of ten players named to the National Football League 1930s All-Decade Team who have not been inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Guy was a beast, not sure how he was that low. I know he was only on the Bears 3 years, but they said there were some guys high on the list that did great work in a short time(guessing Sayers as an example); and they also took guys body of work as a Bear and other NFL teams, and he threw the ball some. Seems like the game was completely different back then.
Bill Osmanski is the type of guy that is likely higher on this list if anyone was around to watch him from wiki:
Osmanski was drafted in the 1st round (6th pick overall) of the 1939 NFL Draft by the Chicago Bears. The pick paid immediate dividends for the Bears as Osmanski led the National Football League in rushing in 1939 with 699 yards. The Bears also selected Hall of Fame quarterback Sid Luckman in the 1st round, forming the backbone of the Bears' great 1940s teams, which won championships in 1940, 1941, 1943, and 1946.
With a 68-yard run, Osmanski scored the first touchdown of Chicago's 73–0 victory over the Washington Redskins in the 1940 NFL Championship Game. He rushed for 109 yards in what remains the most one-sided championship game in the league's history.
Osmanski did not play for the Bears in the 1944 and 1945 seasons due to World War II. He served in the United States Marine Corps during these years, in Guam, Guadalcanal, and Okinawa. Osmanski retired from professional football following the 1947 season.
Didn't play a lot, but was a key component to 4 championships along w/Sid Luckman and was part of one of the most dominant championship teams in league history after pounding Washington 73-0. W/out question he should be higher on the list; a lot hihger.
It will be interesting to see if George Halas makes the list, and if so, where on the list they place him. He was on the all-decade team of the NFL for the 1920's as a key player in the league. It must have been amazing for Papa Bear to go from being an outfielder for the New York Yankees, to being an NFL player, coach and owner - all three - in a short period of time. What an athlete, he played wide receiver on offense (played both ways O and D), defensive end on defense for the Bears. And he played at such a high level that he was voted to the NFL All-Decade Team (he is in the Hall of Fame, but I think that's for his entire contribution to the NFL and not just being a player).
I also find it amazing that he served in both World War I and also World War II, and earned the Bronze Star during WWII.
I'll be honest, some of these guys I never thought were very good. At best some were mediocre players. Yes, some were very good here (always liked watching George Blanda... but when he was a Raider). Are these really some of our best players in a 100-year history?
LINK Bears reveal first 25 players in Top 100 all-time list 100: Patrick Mannely 99: Doug Plank 98: Trace Armstrong 97: Bobby Joe Green 96: Eddie Jackson 95: Larry Morris 94: Jim Dooley 93: Herman Lee 92: Bill Osmanski 91: Bob Wetoshka 90: Beattie Feather 89: Mike Pyle 88: Joey Sternaman 87: Luke Johnsos 86: Allan Ellis 85: Jay Cutler 84: Tom Thayer 83: Willie Gault 82: George Blanda 81: Brandon Marshall 80: Alshon Jeffery 79: Dennis McKinnon 78: Donnell Woolford 77: Bennie McRae 76: J.C. Caroline