Chicago Bears are off to worst start in last 11 years by Bryan Perez
It's been a while since the Chicago Bears have started a season as bad as they have this year. Their 1-4 start is the worst the franchise has experienced in 11 years, when the Bears started 2004 with a 1-5 record.
Injuries have played a huge role in Chicago's disappointing start, with critical players like Jay Cutler, Eddie Goldman, Kevin White, Jeremy Langford, Kyle Fuller, Leonard Floyd, Danny Trevathan, Lamarr Houston and several others missing games because of various ailments.
When Ryan Pace took over as the team's general manager in 2015, it was understood that the Bears would be embarking on a rebuilding project that would take several seasons to complete. But the regression from year one to year two under coach John Fox has been concerning, to say the least.
The first two weeks of the season involved winnable games that were lost because of the coaching staff's inability to make critical halftime adjustments. The Bears could have easily won one, if not both, of those contests if Fox and company had been better prepared.
Pace could be staring at one of his most difficult decisions as a young general manager if Chicago doesn't string together some encouraging games. If the Bears end the season at, say, 4-12, there will be little-to-no justification to bring Fox back for a third year.
Fox isn't helping his cause, either. His approach to the media about the Bears' quarterback controversy has been amateur at best and is another exhibit in the growing case against his return.
The season is still relatively young and there's a lot of football left to be played. The coaches and players should feel a sense of urgency moving forward, as it would be a disservice to the fans to give anyone involved with the embarrassing early-season product a free pass to 2017.
Of course the media knows nothing has no information and are in general morons so most of this cannot be taken serious. Just messin w/ya Soul.
Biggest reason for not bringing Fox back is the clown show that are his press conferences WHEN you are not winning. Bill Bel gets to act like that, he's won multiple SB's and is going into the HoF w/out question. Fox has acted like a ginormous douche since he got here, and it's only getting worse. Worse is his lack of ability to out perform other coaches as stated. I don't think Hou/Philly would have been winnable games, but they would have been closer.
but alas this is just media folk and they are no nothing morons and cannot be listened to.
"When Ryan Pace took over as the team's general manager in 2015, it was understood that the Bears would be embarking on a rebuilding project that would take several seasons to complete. But the regression from year one to year two under coach John Fox has been concerning, to say the least."
In fairness, injuries, on top of all the new/young players, have also been a factor to some extent. On a veteran team with stability, this level of injuries - including the starting quarterback - would still have an impact. But it is even more of a factor if you're already working with a roster of new/young players.
We had a 10-win team and fired the HC, Lovie Smith - after three division championships and a super bowl appearance. Then we basically nuked the team roster. We hired/fired a GM and an entire coaching staff after Angelo/Lovie. Now we have Pace/Fox who are 5 games into their 2nd season here.
Some have said Gase would have done better, but Gase is just another 1-win coach too, and who, arguably, inherited a better team than Fox. I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of a job sooner rather than later down in Miami.
So, how much time do you give a new GM and HC to complete a total rebuild of a team? What is reasonable?
Wowowow, that roster was already nuked and on some serious 1/2 life. Long gone were the days of that OL and def dominating. About the only thing left was special teams and a run game that at that time didn't actually need a dominating OL to move the ball.
That roster from 06-10 was night and day different, even if the names were the same, the play on the field wasn't.
"When Ryan Pace took over as the team's general manager in 2015, it was understood that the Bears would be embarking on a rebuilding project that would take several seasons to complete. But the regression from year one to year two under coach John Fox has been concerning, to say the least."
In fairness, injuries, on top of all the new/young players, have also been a factor to some extent. On a veteran team with stability, this level of injuries - including the starting quarterback - would still have an impact. But it is even more of a factor if you're already working with a roster of new/young players.
We had a 10-win team and fired the HC, Lovie Smith - after three division championships and a super bowl appearance. Then we basically nuked the team roster. We hired/fired a GM and an entire coaching staff after Angelo/Lovie. Now we have Pace/Fox who are 5 games into their 2nd season here.
Some have said Gase would have done better, but Gase is just another 1-win coach too, and who, arguably, inherited a better team than Fox. I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of a job sooner rather than later down in Miami.
So, how much time do you give a new GM and HC to complete a total rebuild of a team? What is reasonable?
I give Pace another 3 years while Fox I give 1 more year. Pace is at least bringing in talent through FA and Draft. He seems to be doing pretty good but needs to stop drafting projects in the top 10 that won't work out. Now I don't know if Fox is responsible or what but I was never a big fan of playing his guys over the better players.
Like Floyd over Houston. I don't understand why any coach would play a rookie who is undersized vs a proven vet who has experience and was our best pass rusher last year.
In fairness, injuries, on top of all the new/young players, have also been a factor to some extent. On a veteran team with stability, this level of injuries - including the starting quarterback - would still have an impact. But it is even more of a factor if you're already working with a roster of new/young players.
We had a 10-win team and fired the HC, Lovie Smith - after three division championships and a super bowl appearance. Then we basically nuked the team roster. We hired/fired a GM and an entire coaching staff after Angelo/Lovie. Now we have Pace/Fox who are 5 games into their 2nd season here.
Some have said Gase would have done better, but Gase is just another 1-win coach too, and who, arguably, inherited a better team than Fox. I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of a job sooner rather than later down in Miami.
So, how much time do you give a new GM and HC to complete a total rebuild of a team? What is reasonable?
I give Pace another 3 years while Fox I give 1 more year. Pace is at least bringing in talent through FA and Draft. He seems to be doing pretty good but needs to stop drafting projects in the top 10 that won't work out. Now I don't know if Fox is responsible or what but I was never a big fan of playing his guys over the better players.
Like Floyd over Houston. I don't know understand why any coach would play a rookie who is undersized vs a proven vet who has experience and was our best pass rusher last year.
I think that is reasonable to give Fox 1 more season. The roster should have plenty of talent next season. At that point Pace will have had 3 drafts and 3 free agency years, so the roster should be pretty decent if Pace is competent. If the team struggles next season then Fox should go. I'm thinking Pace should be given the opportunity to hire one more HC if Fox fails.
I'm not saying this because I am a Pace fan or a Fox fan. I just hate the thought of going through another cycle of GM/HCs. IF we have to, then we have to. But I would err on the side of caution and make darned certain these two are duds before we throw them out and hire what would be our 8th GM/HCs since 2011 (4 GMS and 4 HCs). That is a devastating obstacle to overcome. And then you still have a new coaching staff who will undoubtedly bring in new schemes - which may require different players. I mean, where does it all end?
That doesn't mean you keep Pace and Fox if they suck. But we'd better be darned sure they do suck before we spin the GM/HC wheel again.
After todays press conference, I wouldnt give Fox any more seasons if our play doesnt get (much) better until the end of the season, he also needs to stop making stupid picks of who he plays and stops acting like an ass generally.
After todays press conference, I wouldnt give Fox any more seasons if our play doesnt get (much) better until the end of the season, he also needs to stop making stupid picks of who he plays and stops acting like an ass generally.
Maybe you're right. But do you think this team can get significantly better this year? Is that even possible with the existing healthy players?
After todays press conference, I wouldnt give Fox any more seasons if our play doesnt get (much) better until the end of the season, he also needs to stop making stupid picks of who he plays and stops acting like an ass generally.
Maybe you're right. But do you think this team can get significantly better this year? Is that even possible with the existing healthy players?
First of all, we will get some of them back, second and more important thats why we have coaches for, our guys need to show progress. We are 1-4, at this point I was hoping for 3-2
Maybe you're right. But do you think this team can get significantly better this year? Is that even possible with the existing healthy players?
First of all, we will get some of them back, second and more important thats why we have coaches for, our guys need to show progress. We are 1-4, at this point I was hoping for 3-2
I think some of the young people have showed some decent progress, but I'm just not sure how many wins that will translate into. The OL looked pretty bad week-1. Some people were talking like Whitehair was a bust... but I think that was on the other messageboard. Now they look better (except for Massie). Even the run-blocking looks better than I've seen in a few years. And some of the youngsters on D in the secondary have looked surprisingly decent, but have made some mistakes too. Howard, for a non-first round pick rookie is showing promise. The LB corps is coming along nicely too. And Goldman was looking like a beast before his injury. I may be wrong, but I think there are some promising youngsters coming along for next year. Add another draft and free agency to that talent, and I think this could be a very good team. But just not this year. I just don't see that being possible. But I could also be dead wrong.