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Hoge (WGN):brian-hoyer-is-a-good-backup-quarterback-thats-it Oct 4, 2016 18:46:45 GMT -6 brasilbear and xaosgorilla like this

Post by paytonisgod on Oct 4, 2016 18:46:45 GMT -6

Oct 4, 2016 13:42:31 GMT -6 JABF said:

Oct 4, 2016 13:10:08 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

And there in lies the problem, and why it really doesn't matter. Hoyer is nothing special, but he's safe w/the ball. Cutler can probably produce as much if not better, but he'll turn the ball over which will neutralize the extra points. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

As a fan it just wears a person down. Cutler is the big tease.

But that's on you for getting your hopes up. That's not Cutler's fault. Cutler is what he is. He's never going to be Peyton Manning. He's been with the team long enough that no one should have any illusions about this. If Pace drafts a QB or signs an FA who consistently out plays Cutler I'll kick Cutler out the door myself. However until that happens freaking out about some of the mistakes he makes isn't going to help your blood pressure any.

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Hoge (WGN):brian-hoyer-is-a-good-backup-quarterback-thats-it Oct 4, 2016 18:53:46 GMT -6 AlexM, brasilbear, and 1 more like this

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Oct 4, 2016 18:46:45 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

Oct 4, 2016 13:42:31 GMT -6 JABF said:

As a fan it just wears a person down. Cutler is the big tease.

But that's on you for getting your hopes up. That's not Cutler's fault. Cutler is what he is. He's never going to be Peyton Manning. He's been with the team long enough that no one should have any illusions about this. If Pace drafts a QB or signs an FA who consistently out plays Cutler I'll kick Cutler out the door myself. However until that happens freaking out about some of the mistakes he makes isn't going to help your blood pressure any.

True. And Hoyer is who he is too. He had a great game Sunday. He's also had plenty of dud games too and will again.

He is a placeholder and decent vet backup, that's all. I have no problem with Fox playing the "hot hand" even if Cutler is healthy again this week. I just am not naive enough to believe the hot hand will stay hot for very long.

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Post by weneedmorelinemen on Oct 5, 2016 13:21:59 GMT -6

Oct 4, 2016 13:43:01 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Well neither is Cutler, what's your point. Cutler had to chances to play well against playoff teams, and shit the bed and pee'd his pants

I guarantee you in the locker room, in the film room they are not telling Hoyer, hey go out there and just play good enough vs the cellar dwellar's, when a playoff team comes along you're allowed to play like shit.

He should be off the team next year, and shouldn't have been signed; backup rookies can play as well as he had, and at a franction of the cost.

No, they don't tell him that. That's just his level of ability.

But they didn't give him the time of day until Cutler got hurt, let alone anywhere near the snaps as Cutler received. My expectations are less when the player does not get the same level of preparation like a starter does.

I thought you believe it takes a year or two for a QB to develop into a starter. Now you are saying all rookie quarterbacks can play backup QB week 4 as well as Hoyer is now?

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Hoge (WGN):brian-hoyer-is-a-good-backup-quarterback-thats-it Oct 5, 2016 14:10:51 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Oct 5, 2016 14:10:51 GMT -6

You don't know what amount of prep he actually got, let alone if he got the time of day. I believe it takes a year or 2 for a mid round QB; just like any other mid round position(outside RB). But again I'm also watching other teams, and it doesnt always take that long based on talent lvl and fit for the scheme.

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Post by shortfacedbear on Oct 5, 2016 17:53:23 GMT -6

Hoyer isn't an answer to Jay but he is a BRIDGE to start going away from him. Drafting a guy is the eventual answer but there needs to be some consistency at the position during the transition. Which I fear will take two eternities to accomplish.

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Post by motm on Oct 5, 2016 17:59:12 GMT -6

Oct 5, 2016 14:10:51 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

You don't know what amount of prep he actually got, let alone if he got the time of day. I believe it takes a year or 2 for a mid round QB; just like any other mid round position(outside RB). But again I'm also watching other teams, and it doesnt always take that long based on talent lvl and fit for the scheme.

Year or two for a mid round QB?

Are you not watching the Cowboys? Because that proves you wrong...

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Oct 4, 2016 15:49:17 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

25 starts with 30 turnovers. That's Hoyer

136 starts
86 fumbles
143 ints
229 turnovers total

That's Jay Cutler.

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Oct 5, 2016 17:53:23 GMT -6 shortfacedbear said:

Hoyer isn't an answer to Jay but he is a BRIDGE to start going away from him. Drafting a guy is the eventual answer but there needs to be some consistency at the position during the transition. Which I fear will take two eternities to accomplish.

Me too , cuz it seems like they don't ever seem to have the right kind of coaching needed to develop one . If you draft one high you better get him a good coach who actually knows wtf he's doing .

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Oct 5, 2016 17:53:23 GMT -6 shortfacedbear said:

Hoyer isn't an answer to Jay but he is a BRIDGE to start going away from him. Drafting a guy is the eventual answer but there needs to be some consistency at the position during the transition. Which I fear will take two eternities to accomplish.

He probably is the bridge, but bridges vary in quality

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