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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 27, 2016 22:10:28 GMT -6

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Sept 27, 2016 21:25:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Sept 27, 2016 18:54:28 GMT -6 motm said:

Honestly I don't know how I feel about this year's QBs. To be honest none of them look any good. Last year looked much better.

Honestly I rather have the best defensive prospect since Von Miller ( Myles Garrett ) picked in the first.

Houston's days are numbered here and Mcphee is one bad knee injury away from a career ending one.

I think the qb's now look better then last year, and I'd be real careful about "the next great player since" That was Luck since Peyton and he's not anywhere near that good.

Either way I want them to target that guy and that guy, O D, QB, DE, OLB, LT etc.

Given our past success with identifying and drafting QBs high, and combining that with their failure rate, I think we'd be stupid twice over to draft one high again. Keep building a dominant defense and a great OL and we can win with even an average QB (like Cutler Ric, LOL).

Hell, if Fox actually keeps his job, and given his most recent comment about a starting QB when Cutler can play, he may even try it with Hoyer which only tells me even more about why Fox should go. Before we jump off into the deep end of the QB pool maybe we should see what we have in Connor Shaw. He's small but so is Brees and so was Mac and he's a bit of spark plug like Mac.

Personally I think it's about time we stopped being stupid with higher draft picks. With the exception of Urlacher so far our success rate with top ten picks has been dismal and the last two ain't lookin' so good either so that takes care of the "but we have a new GM and a new scouting dept. now" argument.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 27, 2016 22:33:24 GMT -6

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Sept 27, 2016 18:21:24 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Sept 27, 2016 18:00:41 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Thats really early to go but no surprise.

Should be a lt or de or olb if they had drafted dak innthe fourth instead of the backups they got.

Totally agree. Dak was there but like all the other teams, we had no clue. As to who we draft... I mean seriously we played three games and we have no idea how we will finish 16. Nor do we know if Watson is even the best.

I would agree but I think it is obvious QB should be the top priority.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 27, 2016 22:53:11 GMT -6 blueshoes likes this

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Sept 27, 2016 21:25:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Sept 27, 2016 18:54:28 GMT -6 motm said:

Honestly I don't know how I feel about this year's QBs. To be honest none of them look any good. Last year looked much better.

Honestly I rather have the best defensive prospect since Von Miller ( Myles Garrett ) picked in the first.

Houston's days are numbered here and Mcphee is one bad knee injury away from a career ending one.

I think the qb's now look better then last year, and I'd be real careful about "the next great player since" That was Luck since Peyton and he's not anywhere near that good.

Either way I want them to target that guy and that guy, O D, QB, DE, OLB, LT etc.

I'll just leave this here:

Problem with Luck is he has no run game, O-line, and defense. You can't help a franchise out when it has many problems.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 28, 2016 4:37:47 GMT -6 AlexM likes this

Post by riczaj01 on Sept 28, 2016 4:37:47 GMT -6

Sept 27, 2016 22:10:28 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Sept 27, 2016 21:25:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I think the qb's now look better then last year, and I'd be real careful about "the next great player since" That was Luck since Peyton and he's not anywhere near that good.

Either way I want them to target that guy and that guy, O D, QB, DE, OLB, LT etc.

Given our past success with identifying and drafting QBs high, and combining that with their failure rate, I think we'd be stupid twice over to draft one high again. Keep building a dominant defense and a great OL and we can win with even an average QB (like Cutler Ric, LOL).

Hell, if Fox actually keeps his job, and given his most recent comment about a starting QB when Cutler can play, he may even try it with Hoyer which only tells me even more about why Fox should go. Before we jump off into the deep end of the QB pool maybe we should see what we have in Connor Shaw. He's small but so is Brees and so was Mac and he's a bit of spark plug like Mac.

Personally I think it's about time we stopped being stupid with higher draft picks. With the exception of Urlacher so far our success rate with top ten picks has been dismal and the last two ain't lookin' so good either so that takes care of the "but we have a new GM and a new scouting dept. now" argument.

That's a pointless argument, Pace/Fox have zero history in drafting a QB for the Bears, so the Bears history has nothing to do w/them.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 28, 2016 4:39:58 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Sept 28, 2016 4:39:58 GMT -6

Sept 27, 2016 22:53:11 GMT -6 motm said:

Sept 27, 2016 21:25:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I think the qb's now look better then last year, and I'd be real careful about "the next great player since" That was Luck since Peyton and he's not anywhere near that good.

Either way I want them to target that guy and that guy, O D, QB, DE, OLB, LT etc.

I'll just leave this here:

Problem with Luck is he has no run game, O-line, and defense. You can't help a franchise out when it has many problems.

Luck has also benefited from playing in the softest division for most of his career and has a losing record outside of that division. Not every Colts fan(I am from and now live in Colt country) is sold on him either.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 28, 2016 23:15:51 GMT -6

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Sept 28, 2016 4:39:58 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Sept 27, 2016 22:53:11 GMT -6 motm said:

I'll just leave this here:

Problem with Luck is he has no run game, O-line, and defense. You can't help a franchise out when it has many problems.

Luck has also benefited from playing in the softest division for most of his career and has a losing record outside of that division. Not every Colts fan(I am from and now live in Colt country) is sold on him either.

... so they say , but I'd bet if I were the Bears GM and any one of them was the Colts GM , and I offered a good deal to trade for him , they'd say no . He's a great player who , similarly to Cutty , has had to deal with crap O-lines and sub-par defenses during his time , but he's the biggest reason they've even won the games they have , cuz w/o him , their records would be worse .

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 29, 2016 3:29:32 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Sept 29, 2016 3:29:32 GMT -6

Blue, depends on the offer, but of course they'd say no, they paid a lot to get him(lost a franchise qb and was a #1 overall pick) and a lot of resources around making him the next great qb in Indy. A lot of qb's deal w/those problems and make the team better, he's not one of them; which is why he has a losing record outside of that division. If he's a lot like Cutty, well there's your problem right there.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 29, 2016 3:57:15 GMT -6

Post by motm on Sept 29, 2016 3:57:15 GMT -6

Sept 29, 2016 3:29:32 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Blue, depends on the offer, but of course they'd say no, they paid a lot to get him(lost a franchise qb and was a #1 overall pick) and a lot of resources around making him the next great qb in Indy. A lot of qb's deal w/those problems and make the team better, he's not one of them; which is why he has a losing record outside of that division. If he's a lot like Cutty, well there's your problem right there.

But he isn't like Cutler.

Luck has been to the Pro Bowl 3 times in his "Young" career. He was also the NFL Passing Touchdown leader in 2014 and lead his team to 3 back to back playoffs. Sure it could be because its a weak division but this division hasn't been the strongest over the years.

Cutler has had 1 Pro Bowl and that was in 2008.

I really don't understand how you can discredit Luck.

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Deshaun Watson Is Projected To Be Drafted By The Chicago Bea Sept 29, 2016 4:03:28 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Sept 29, 2016 4:03:28 GMT -6

Sept 29, 2016 3:57:15 GMT -6 motm said:

Sept 29, 2016 3:29:32 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Blue, depends on the offer, but of course they'd say no, they paid a lot to get him(lost a franchise qb and was a #1 overall pick) and a lot of resources around making him the next great qb in Indy. A lot of qb's deal w/those problems and make the team better, he's not one of them; which is why he has a losing record outside of that division. If he's a lot like Cutty, well there's your problem right there.

But he isn't like Cutler.

Luck has been to the Pro Bowl 3 times in his "Young" career. He was also the NFL Passing Touchdown leader in 2014 and lead his team to 3 back to back playoffs. Sure it could be because its a weak division but this division hasn't been the strongest over the years.

Cutler has had 1 Pro Bowl and that was in 2008.

I really don't understand how you can discredit Luck.

Pro bowls don't mean shit and you know that motm; it's a popularity contest.

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