Stats are rarely objective. Stats are used all the time by 2 different viewpoints on the same subject. Stats are only objective when you take them all into account and build a complete picture. One thing I still agree w/Cutler on is that you never know the whole story of an O, and who did what right and who did what wrong if you aren't on the team or in the filmroom.
He didn't look great, I don't disagree but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be on the team; that's a decision for the coaches and the GM, not the fans. And since his contract isn't a qualifier for staying on the team then there has to be something the coaches like about him.
Um.... ok. Stats are almost always objective. Their interpretation may not be.
Yes, the coaches feel he should be on the team. And all of us that have eyes don't see why.
Stats are rarely objective. Stats are used all the time by 2 different viewpoints on the same subject. Stats are only objective when you take them all into account and build a complete picture. One thing I still agree w/Cutler on is that you never know the whole story of an O, and who did what right and who did what wrong if you aren't on the team or in the filmroom.
He didn't look great, I don't disagree but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be on the team; that's a decision for the coaches and the GM, not the fans. And since his contract isn't a qualifier for staying on the team then there has to be something the coaches like about him.
Um.... ok. Stats are almost always objective. Their interpretation may not be.
Yes, the coaches feel he should be on the team. And all of us that have eyes don't wee why.
If Nagy thinks Sims can play a role and price isn't an issue, I don't see the issue.
Um.... ok. Stats are almost always objective. Their interpretation may not be.
Yes, the coaches feel he should be on the team. And all of us that have eyes don't wee why.
If Nagy thinks Sims can play a role and price isn't an issue, I don't see the issue.
Why does there have to be an issue? I don't think Sims was worth the money. That's my only point. That doesn't mean I'm right and it shouldn't deserve 6 posts back and forth because someone doesn't think a player should have been resigned. I don't see an issue either. The Bears think he should should have been resigned (and did). I was not impressed and am wondering why they signed him and said so. I don't see an issue with either position to be honest. I don't have to agree with everything the Bears do. And I hope I'm wrong. That would give us another weapon.
Stats are rarely objective. Stats are used all the time by 2 different viewpoints on the same subject. Stats are only objective when you take them all into account and build a complete picture. One thing I still agree w/Cutler on is that you never know the whole story of an O, and who did what right and who did what wrong if you aren't on the team or in the filmroom.
He didn't look great, I don't disagree but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be on the team; that's a decision for the coaches and the GM, not the fans. And since his contract isn't a qualifier for staying on the team then there has to be something the coaches like about him.
Um.... ok. Stats are almost always objective. Their interpretation may not be.
Yes, the coaches feel he should be on the team. And all of us that have eyes don't wee why.
Stats don't give you the whole story however. If he were a starter and his only job was to run routes and catch the ball, they'd tell you slightly more...they still wouldn't tell you the whole story, but slightly more. Stats don't take usage into account generally. Tight ends also perform a job that isn't represented in the stat column...so if you use just stats to justify an observation that observation is still just as subjective as it was without the stats.
Post by brasilbear on Apr 22, 2018 15:44:23 GMT -6
At the risk of taking the Burton discussion further down the Sims rabbit hole....
The problem with Sims is that once again we (the general we, the fan base) looked at his past production as a receiver and how much he was going to get and thought his numbers would improve on what he had done in the past. The numbers didn't and in general (yeah I know not you specially dear fellow poster, because you know everything about football)we don't know exactly what Sims was asked to do. How much did he block, how many routes, what kind of routes, where was his route in the reads, was he just running clear outs, how was the coverage....
To my untrained eye, his blocking didn't look exceptional but again, I don't know what he was asked to do.
So while I'm not sure why he was kept at 6 mil a season I do know that Burton and Sims don't play the same position. Sims and Shaneen are closer positionally (is that even a word) than Burton and Sims. IMO Sims is being kept as insurance for Shaneen. If Shaneen can keep the starting posion away from Sims, this will be Sims last season in Chicago. I also think that Shaneen will be the starter until/unless he can't keep it.
As far as Burton, same as any other signing. If he generates yards and scores it was worth it. If he doesn't, it wasn't. But I'm not basing my opinion on some blogger for Bleacher-report.
Um.... ok. Stats are almost always objective. Their interpretation may not be.
Yes, the coaches feel he should be on the team. And all of us that have eyes don't wee why.
Stats don't give you the whole story however. If he were a starter and his only job was to run routes and catch the ball, they'd tell you slightly more...they still wouldn't tell you the whole story, but slightly more. Stats don't take usage into account generally. Tight ends also perform a job that isn't represented in the stat column...so if you use just stats to justify an observation that observation is still just as subjective as it was without the stats.
Well, I see him play and he does not look impressive. Then the stats say he was not impressive. I dunno... but that's really all I need.
Stats don't give you the whole story however. If he were a starter and his only job was to run routes and catch the ball, they'd tell you slightly more...they still wouldn't tell you the whole story, but slightly more. Stats don't take usage into account generally. Tight ends also perform a job that isn't represented in the stat column...so if you use just stats to justify an observation that observation is still just as subjective as it was without the stats.
Well, I see him play and he does not look impressive. Then the stats say he was not impressive. I dunno... but that's really all I need.
The stats without context say he's unimpressive, and you, not knowing what exactly he's supposed to be doing on any given play may think he's unimpressive...but there is the potential to be both correct or incorrect on both fronts. So we're back where we were in the beginning...subjective.
Well, I see him play and he does not look impressive. Then the stats say he was not impressive. I dunno... but that's really all I need.
The stats without context say he's unimpressive, and you, not knowing what exactly he's supposed to be doing on any given play may think he's unimpressive...but there is the potential to be both correct or incorrect on both fronts. So we're back where we were in the beginning...subjective.
Of course. Where did I say that was not my opinion?
The stats without context say he's unimpressive, and you, not knowing what exactly he's supposed to be doing on any given play may think he's unimpressive...but there is the potential to be both correct or incorrect on both fronts. So we're back where we were in the beginning...subjective.
Of course. Where did I say that was not my opinion?
I was just merely pointing out that stats don't give you a full picture and neither really does a persons observation of a player.
Pace goes out and solves his problem with having some pass catchers for his QB and another moron has to find fault with the Burton signing because he has no way to adequately evaluate it. All he can use as a rationale is that Burton was a 3rd string TE but ignores the strength of that position on the Eagles and how much they spread the ball around.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Maybe one day Charlie Neibergall will find one to use.