I'm sorry but NFL officiating and the replay system gets more ****ed up with each passing year. Half the time whatever explanation they give doesn't jive with the video replays anyway. So do they have their own eye in the sky or just their own rule book with multiple choice excuses to use for making the calls they do. It's really getting frustrating to watch games be decided by officials.
This is it for me. I'm not gonna watch another game. I could spend my time doing better things than that. It's getting so the offseason is more interesting than the season itself.
I'm more pissed about the discrepancy in PI calls. An incidental bump on an uncatchable ball is PI, but the peckers can tackle our guy before the ball gets there and it's okay?
Back to the topic, Fox is an idiot. Plain and simple. Why challenege the play? Just run a QB sneak or something and get the TD on the next play. And who the heck is the moron upstairs that said to throw the flag? Even if Fox isn't fired tonight, that moron should be.
Does anyone else think the rule for a fumble going out of the end zone becomes a touch back is absolutely ridiculous. I hate this rule. The ball should be placed at the one yard line or at least where the ball was originally fumbled.
As for Fox challenging the play I don't place 100% of the blame on him. The coaches in the box are the ones responsible for telling him to challenge or not since they have the best view and see the replays.
Also, if the Bears didn't challenge it doesn't mean that the Packers would not have if they thought it was a fumble.
Does anyone else think the rule for a fumble going out of the end zone becomes a touch back is absolutely ridiculous. I hate this rule. The ball should be placed at the one yard line or at least where the ball was originally fumbled.
As for Fox challenging the play I don't place 100% of the blame on him. The coaches in the box are the ones responsible for telling him to challenge or not since they have the best view and see the replays.
Also, if the Bears didn't challenge it doesn't mean that the Packers would not have if they thought it was a fumble.
We don't know what the coaches in the box told him, and he does not have to listen to them.
Does anyone else think the rule for a fumble going out of the end zone becomes a touch back is absolutely ridiculous. I hate this rule. The ball should be placed at the one yard line or at least where the ball was originally fumbled.
Very stupid....
An even worse rule is the breaking the plane rule. It is ok for a runner to just touch the line then fumble the ball but it is still a TD but a receiver has to show possession. WTF is the difference? If you saw that TD that Cam Newton made on Thursday night, I believe should not have been counted. He broke the plane while in midair lost the ball but still got the TD. In my mind he should have landed with both feet in the end zone WITH possession.
Does anyone else think the rule for a fumble going out of the end zone becomes a touch back is absolutely ridiculous. I hate this rule. The ball should be placed at the one yard line or at least where the ball was originally fumbled.
Very stupid....
An even worse rule is the breaking the plane rule. It is ok for a runner to just touch the line then fumble the ball but it is still a TD but a receiver has to show possession. WTF is the difference? If you saw that TD that Cam Newton made on Thursday night, I believe should not have been counted. He broke the plane while in midair lost the ball but still got the TD. In my mind he should have landed with both feet in the end zone WITH possession.
The breaking the plane rule actually make sense to me. If possession is already established then once the ball crosses the plane it's all over. It's a TD and the play is dead. If there is no control of the ball when crossing the plane then it must be established in the end zone to be considered a TD. Makes sense.
Does anyone else think the rule for a fumble going out of the end zone becomes a touch back is absolutely ridiculous. I hate this rule. The ball should be placed at the one yard line or at least where the ball was originally fumbled.
As for Fox challenging the play I don't place 100% of the blame on him. The coaches in the box are the ones responsible for telling him to challenge or not since they have the best view and see the replays.
Also, if the Bears didn't challenge it doesn't mean that the Packers would not have if they thought it was a fumble.
We don't know what the coaches in the box told him, and he does not have to listen to them.
First of all houston is right. The decision to challenge can only come from Fox.
Second, all it took was for me to watch that replay once to see that A) Cunningham never stepped out of bounds, and 2) that he'd lost or given up control of the ball before it hit the pylon which makes it a fumble which he didn't recover before it went out of the end zone.
Whether or not it's a dumb rule makes no difference and if they decide to change it tomorrow it still makes no difference. That was the rule yesterday and if Fox and his coaches were not aware of that rule and the possibility of losing the ball completely on a challenge they should all be fired today. I'd go one step farther and line them up for a firing squad but I guess we can't do that in this country.
The ONLY way the ball get's placed on the one yard line is if Cunningham or another Bear recovers it in the end zone itself. You can't fumble into a TD. That's the Dave Casper rule. Aren't NFL HCs and their staff supposed to know these things?
An even worse rule is the breaking the plane rule. It is ok for a runner to just touch the line then fumble the ball but it is still a TD but a receiver has to show possession. WTF is the difference? If you saw that TD that Cam Newton made on Thursday night, I believe should not have been counted. He broke the plane while in midair lost the ball but still got the TD. In my mind he should have landed with both feet in the end zone WITH possession.
The breaking the plane rule actually make sense to me. If possession is already established then once the ball crosses the plane it's all over. It's a TD and the play is dead. If there is no control of the ball when crossing the plane then it must be established in the end zone to be considered a TD. Makes sense.
Which is fine if it's defined the same was as a catch anywhere else which mean if you come down with both feet in bounds and in full possession of the ball it's normally a catch. Since the ground can't cause a fumble once your down and touched the play ends.
Everywhere else the rule seems to lack this same bizarre definition of maintaining control as it does on a score which IMHO leads to all kinds of ways for NY to rule on it and manipulate scoring and therefore and outcome. In that way I don't think it makes sense at all.