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Marcus Cooper with a message to Bears fans Mar 15, 2017 13:35:56 GMT -6 JABF likes this

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Mar 15, 2017 12:50:39 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Mar 15, 2017 12:43:01 GMT -6 4dabers said:

Here's my problem; I want to be an optimist, I want to be happy about what the Bears do and I tend to be a glass half full kinda guy. I want to feel good about the guys because I want to have at least some modicum of respect for the individuals that wear the uniform of the team I cheer for.

The reality is, I give very little respect for the very nice parting thoughts that AJ posted and I give very little respect for the comments posted by Cooper here. I believe it is a nice thing in each case, but because of the ease of posting/publicizing such things these days via social media, it takes very little effort to do; VERY little. So little, in fact, that the sentiment is essentially meaningless. Just as Belly suggests, it may have even been drafted by his agent which then simply means it didn't even mean enough for him to take the very little time it takes to put the sentiments in your own words.

Don't get me wrong, its a nicer gesture than saying nothing at all; I'm certainly not going to SLAM anyone for it, but it holds very little meaning to me.

Sure, but how many guys did it? Its a real nice gesture... with all this agents crap we could go really, really deep, everything can be PR

Well, you're right, it IS a nice gesture. I'm not expressing my opinion with any tone of animosity or even simple displeasure; there is certainly no disrespect towards him in any way. I'm just rather agnostic about it and that's all I'm sharing. It's certainly better to do so as opposed to NOT doing so; and for that, I give him a tip of the cap and welcome aboard. I'm just suggesting that it is a very, very simple gesture that takes very little effort or thought, and thus, my emotions regarding it are very minor as well. All in all, you are right though, it's a nice thing for him to do and it shows he wants to be a good guy for the fans.

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Mar 15, 2017 13:35:56 GMT -6 4dabers said:

Mar 15, 2017 12:50:39 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Sure, but how many guys did it? Its a real nice gesture... with all this agents crap we could go really, really deep, everything can be PR

Well, you're right, it IS a nice gesture. I'm not expressing my opinion with any tone of animosity or even simple displeasure; there is certainly no disrespect towards him in any way. I'm just rather agnostic about it and that's all I'm sharing. It's certainly better to do so as opposed to NOT doing so; and for that, I give him a tip of the cap and welcome aboard. I'm just suggesting that it is a very, very simple gesture that takes very little effort or thought, and thus, my emotions regarding it are very minor as well. All in all, you are right though, it's a nice thing for him to do and it shows he wants to be a good guy for the fans.

It is easy to do. And it is simple. What does it say about others (majority) all over NFL that dont do anything remotely?
So, welcome aboard Coop!

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Post by JABF on Mar 15, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -6

Mar 15, 2017 13:35:44 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Mar 15, 2017 13:33:53 GMT -6 JABF said:

My problem is that I take people at face value and think the best of them unless they give me a reason to feel otherwise about them. It's a funny time we live in nowadays. People are often less patient and kind towards one another. I've noticed that in recent years I take note of when a person makes an effort to be kind or extra patient with me, because it is not a prevalent as it used to be.

It's not that this was a big effort on Cooper's part. I appreciate the that he made the effort all the same. I've tried to raise my own children to be like this, showing respect, appreciation and going the extra mile to be decent with others. LOL, I am definitely a dinosaur living in a world where people no longer value other people so much, and who suspect the worst of others even before they've done anything to deserve a lack of respect or trust.

It's the same with these players and the Bears team Pace has been trying to rebuild. I'll be as upset as anyone here if this doesn't end well for the team. But until the players play the games this season, I'm giving all of them the benefit of the doubt... coaches, players & GM. They deserve that much. At least that's my way of seeing things. This will be the 3rd year of a rebuilding effort that most here thought would take 3 years minimum. But after 2 rough rebuilding years under Pace, I can see fans jumping off the bandwagon. I'm gonna ride it 1 more season. But LOL, it's getting pretty lonely up here :-)

I guess im a dinosaur too JABF

I saved a seat for ya on the wagon. Hope a few others share the ride with us. LOL, hopefully we don't drive over that cliff :-)

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Mar 15, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -6 JABF said:

Mar 15, 2017 13:35:44 GMT -6 AlexM said:

I guess im a dinosaur too JABF

I saved a seat for ya on the wagon. Hope a few others share the ride with us. LOL, hopefully we don't drive over that cliff :-)

If we do drive off, at least we'll do it together, **** it

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Mar 15, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -6 JABF said:

Mar 15, 2017 13:35:44 GMT -6 AlexM said:

I guess im a dinosaur too JABF

I saved a seat for ya on the wagon. Hope a few others share the ride with us. LOL, hopefully we don't drive over that cliff :-)

Eh. Hard to get all depressed about the Bears this time of year. I watch and talk about football for entertainment purposes. If thinking about the Bears got me depressed all the time, I'd probably find something else to entertain me. That's just me. I personally like the optimism you bring to the board JABF. Keep it coming.

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Mar 15, 2017 14:47:29 GMT -6 @belliot said:

Mar 15, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -6 JABF said:

I saved a seat for ya on the wagon. Hope a few others share the ride with us. LOL, hopefully we don't drive over that cliff :-)

Eh. Hard to get all depressed about the Bears this time of year. I watch and talk about football for entertainment purposes. If thinking about the Bears got me depressed all the time, I'd probably find something else to entertain me. That's just me. I personally like the optimism you bring to the board JABF . Keep it coming.

Ditto^^^

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Mar 14, 2017 17:35:12 GMT -6 @belliot said:

Mar 14, 2017 14:49:35 GMT -6 jj30 said:

So what I got from this letter is Cooper thinks Bears fans aren't any smarter then a 5 year old. Great pick Pace. I got to ask Cooper since I live Denver and the Broncos play here, am I smarter then a 6 or 7 year old since I am still a Bears fan.

Not only does your sense of pessimism mirror soulman's but your geographic location does as well. I thought marijuana was a hallucinogen not a depressant.

Well actually it's neither belli but it's also not a substance I use much of so it's unlikely to be contributing to much of anything except lately maybe to be a mild form of a pain reliever just so I can post about this a bit.

Here's a question for you.

At what point in your Bears fandom will you actually accept allowing reality to bite you in the ass? It's already taken a big chunk out of mine so far ergo the need for weed to reduce the pain of watching my team turn itself into the Chicago Browns. The edibles work best for me.

It is what it is belli until such time as they can prove that I'm wrong.

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Mar 15, 2017 14:47:29 GMT -6 @belliot said:

Mar 15, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -6 JABF said:

I saved a seat for ya on the wagon. Hope a few others share the ride with us. LOL, hopefully we don't drive over that cliff :-)

Eh. Hard to get all depressed about the Bears this time of year. I watch and talk about football for entertainment purposes. If thinking about the Bears got me depressed all the time, I'd probably find something else to entertain me. That's just me. I personally like the optimism you bring to the board JABF . Keep it coming.

I guess that makes me this places version of the Anti-Christ then huh? LOL

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Mar 15, 2017 16:57:32 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Mar 14, 2017 17:35:12 GMT -6 @belliot said:

Not only does your sense of pessimism mirror soulman's but your geographic location does as well. I thought marijuana was a hallucinogen not a depressant.

Well actually it's neither belli but it's also not a substance I use much of so it's unlikely to be contributing to much of anything except lately maybe to be a mild form of a pain reliever just so I can post about this a bit.

Here's a question for you.

At what point in your Bears fandom will you actually accept allowing reality to bite you in the ass? It's already taken a big chunk out of mine so far ergo the need for weed to reduce the pain of watching my team turn itself into the Chicago Browns. The edibles work best for me.

It is what it is belli until such time as they can prove that I'm wrong.

Eh... I get sucked down by their poor performance sometimes - I'm sure we all do but I try not to sit there too long. Usually I can find something about Bears football to enjoy and if I can't I just stop thinking about it for awhile. There are a lot of other areas in life to be interested and excited about.

Ultimately, if the Bears suck again next year - or for the next decade - it's fine. I'm not directly affected by it. During seasons the Bears suck, I try to narrow my focus and look at a few players who are promising or who are playing well despite the overall poor performance. In the offseason, I try to get excited about new players and the potential for new draft picks. I love running mock drafts to see who I can get and then imagine what they might do for the team.

The reality of it is nothing I do or say is going to make a damn bit of difference. I'm here because I like you all and I have fun sharing my ideas and opinions with you. The subject we have in common will tend to be the same and whether the Bears are doing great or are the worst team in the NFL, it still gives us all a common subject to share our ideas and opinions about. I can't get too upset about that.

I was telling my girlfriend the other day: I like the Bears board a lot more than I like the Bears. You all are the easiest friends I have. I can choose when to talk to you and when not to. I'm always comfortable when we're sharing ideas. We have one relatively non-controversial thing to talk about. Pretty awesome if you ask me.

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Mar 15, 2017 0:00:50 GMT -6 jj30 said:

Mar 14, 2017 17:35:12 GMT -6 @belliot said:

Not only does your sense of pessimism mirror soulman's but your geographic location does as well. I thought marijuana was a hallucinogen not a depressant.

Well to answer this Soulman and me have been around a very long time on many different boards. I believe the thin air and being a mile high in Denver helps us cut through all the BS coming out of HH.

Soulman and me use to be just like some of you biting on every word coming out HH, about things being different this or that year only to the see the same shit year in and year. And once again in the spring to more promises only to see those promises go unanswered each spring with more excuses then Carter has liver pills (only the old times will remember what that means). It has taken year of lies and disappointments for to see through the lies and half truths that come out ever spring.

I ask some of the younger posters how many years have you heard in the fall how the Bears need to improve the O line and ever spring you see nothing or at best some half-ass attempt that was doomed from the start fail. To the Bears credit it only took 9 years and 3 GMs to get the O line as good as it is this year and the Tackles still aren't even above average. Most teams might take two years to improve there O line, not the Bears they still don't have it 100% right after 9 going on 10 years.

you see

soy

I'll take it one step farther and ask for how many years have their been promises to fix __________ (posters choice) only to see it fail to be done at a level that most anyone would actually call "fixed".

Had Cody Whitehair not proven to be one of the sharpest OL picks we've ever made and Josh Sitton had not fallen in our laps like a gift from GSH himself how would our pass protection have been in 2016? And what happened wasn't even in the initial plan. It was mostly blind luck or good fortune depending on how you want to shade it.

Cody was drafted to play LG in replacement of Matt Slauson who many whined about like bad alternator when he was let go. Grasu was expected to start at OC 'til the SF turf claimed another victim so Cody moved over and played at near Pro Bowl level at a position he'd never played before. I love getting that lucky.

But without Sitton, one of the very best pass blockers in the NFL, we'd have had to start Larsen next to Leno. Then after we lost Long what then? It took more than half the season for Bobbie Massie to realize he needed to start blocking someone and Leno's ascent pretty much came to a halt and that may well be as good as he ever gets.

Long is coming off a severe ankle injury and will play this year with a torn labrum once again. We're still a bit shaky at OT and a Tom Compton won't help that much if at all. So will Long play RG this year or OT. We don't even know that yet but with the exception of Cody and Sitton that OL is far from "fixed".

Maybe the closets we came to a one year UFA "fix" was at ILB before we lost Trevathan who like McPhee was our prize UFA signing of the year but also a player with an injury history that popped up again. Will either of those guys be 100% by summer? Or ever again? And I don't even want to deal with the secondary just yet. They'll have to show me they're better otherwise it's just like I posted before. To me it's like changing out the greeters at Walmart.

The point both JJ and I are making is this team has been in rebuilding mode about 90% of the time we've been following them. When does that all end?

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