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seqq34 Starter Posts: 705 Likes: 767	Thoughts on Jamal Adams... Mar 8, 2017 20:48:03 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this Post by seqq34 on Mar 8, 2017 20:48:03 GMT -6 Noticing mock boards go from Trubinsky to Jamal Adams with the new Glennon talk, and figured you guys should talk about someone who is not applying for the Qb position lol...thoughts, positives, negatives IYO??? Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Mar 8, 2017 20:48:03 GMT -6 seqq34 said:

Noticing mock boards go from Trubinsky to Jamal Adams with the new Glennon talk, and figured you guys should talk about someone who is not applying for the Qb position lol...thoughts, positives, negatives IYO???

I think he's a rangy, tough, game-changing, do everything field general S ala Earl Thomas and Eric Berry.

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I would not have a DB, just not at 3rd. You have to go back to 1997 for a CB that high, and 3-4 years before that for a S. The position just doesn't dictate a top 1-4 pick. If they traded back to 5-8 and got a top db, espeically Jamal I'd be thrilled

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Mar 8, 2017 21:06:46 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I would not have a DB, just not at 3rd. You have to go back to 1997 for a CB that high, and 3-4 years before that for a S. The position just doesn't dictate a top 1-4 pick. If they traded back to 5-8 and got a top db, espeically Jamal I'd be thrilled

I think if you redo the 2010 draft, you have TWO safeties in the top five. Those types of guys are rare as diamonds, and you better be sure he's of that ilk, but I have no problem saying impact potential is just as valuable at S as any position on D.

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Mar 8, 2017 21:11:55 GMT -6 lklrlolnlilklsox said:

Mar 8, 2017 21:06:46 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I would not have a DB, just not at 3rd. You have to go back to 1997 for a CB that high, and 3-4 years before that for a S. The position just doesn't dictate a top 1-4 pick. If they traded back to 5-8 and got a top db, espeically Jamal I'd be thrilled

I think if you redo the 2010 draft, you have TWO safeties in the top five. Those types of guys are rare as diamonds, and you better be sure he's of that ilk, but I have no problem saying impact potential is just as valuable at S as any position on D.

Listen if this guy is a real once in a lifetime type S then by all means you grab him. But if not, feel free to trade back a few, that's all I'm saying. It's SUPER rare for a S to go in the top 5, only slightly less rare for a CB to go that high.

This team has so completely failed at DB that maybe it's worth it all the same.

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Mar 8, 2017 21:16:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Mar 8, 2017 21:11:55 GMT -6 lklrlolnlilklsox said:

I think if you redo the 2010 draft, you have TWO safeties in the top five. Those types of guys are rare as diamonds, and you better be sure he's of that ilk, but I have no problem saying impact potential is just as valuable at S as any position on D.

Listen if this guy is a real once in a lifetime type S then by all means you grab him. But if not, feel free to trade back a few, that's all I'm saying. It's SUPER rare for a S to go in the top 5, only slightly less rare for a CB to go that high.

This team has so completely failed at DB that maybe it's worth it all the same.

The reason why is DBs are so much harder to project and predict than guys in the front seven. You have a potential 10 player at DE and S, and most teams take the DE all day every day because of that simple fact. Like I said, you better be sure he has that 10 potential ( I think he really does ) , but you can't be afraid to go after the 10 safety vs the 9 front seven guy. Those guys change Ds as much as anyone - look at Seattle without Earl.

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Mar 8, 2017 21:30:41 GMT -6 lklrlolnlilklsox said:

Mar 8, 2017 21:16:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Listen if this guy is a real once in a lifetime type S then by all means you grab him. But if not, feel free to trade back a few, that's all I'm saying. It's SUPER rare for a S to go in the top 5, only slightly less rare for a CB to go that high.

This team has so completely failed at DB that maybe it's worth it all the same.

The reason why is DBs are so much harder to project and predict than guys in the front seven. You have a potential 10 player at DE and S, and most teams take the DE all day every day because of that simple fact. Like I said, you better be sure he has that 10 potential ( I think he really does ) , but you can't be afraid to go after the 10 safety vs the 9 front seven guy. Those guys change Ds as much as anyone - look at Seattle without Earl.

I have no problem going DB w/the first, but if they take him at 3, I sure hope you are right and he is a legit difference maker; b/c our back 4 need more help then the front 7 does.

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Mar 8, 2017 21:36:18 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Mar 8, 2017 21:30:41 GMT -6 lklrlolnlilklsox said:

The reason why is DBs are so much harder to project and predict than guys in the front seven. You have a potential 10 player at DE and S, and most teams take the DE all day every day because of that simple fact. Like I said, you better be sure he has that 10 potential ( I think he really does ) , but you can't be afraid to go after the 10 safety vs the 9 front seven guy. Those guys change Ds as much as anyone - look at Seattle without Earl.

I have no problem going DB w/the first, but if they take him at 3, I sure hope you are right and he is a legit difference maker; b/c our back 4 need more help then the front 7 does.

Isn't it a lesser risk then going for a QB?

This draft doesn't have any worthwhile QBs. Pace seems to think none of these QBs are day one ready with him going after Mike Glennon.

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Mar 8, 2017 22:08:09 GMT -6 motm said:

Mar 8, 2017 21:36:18 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I have no problem going DB w/the first, but if they take him at 3, I sure hope you are right and he is a legit difference maker; b/c our back 4 need more help then the front 7 does.

Isn't it a lesser risk then going for a QB?

This draft doesn't have any worthwhile QBs. Pace seems to think none of these QBs are day one ready with him going after Mike Glennon.

Qb is infinitly more important then a db, and again i dont believe(never have) that this qb class is that bad.

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Thoughts on Jamal Adams... Mar 9, 2017 8:58:37 GMT -6

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Mar 8, 2017 21:16:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Mar 8, 2017 21:11:55 GMT -6 lklrlolnlilklsox said:

I think if you redo the 2010 draft, you have TWO safeties in the top five. Those types of guys are rare as diamonds, and you better be sure he's of that ilk, but I have no problem saying impact potential is just as valuable at S as any position on D.

Listen if this guy is a real once in a lifetime type S then by all means you grab him. But if not, feel free to trade back a few, that's all I'm saying. It's SUPER rare for a S to go in the top 5, only slightly less rare for a CB to go that high.

This team has so completely failed at DB that maybe it's worth it all the same.

Who would be a good trade back team though?...Jets may be the only one that you could dangle the #3 at possibly...

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