Spotrac has a section with their calculation of Market Value. They say Jeffery deserves a contract of 5 years for $61M averaging $12.2M per year is the value they calculate. Pretty interesting method and seems about right. www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/alshon-jeffery-9855/market-value/
I completely agree. If I was setting the price without Jeffrey (or other teams) having any say, I would say about 12.5
That is why I said he would be about 5M overpaid with the tag. And I would still pay it. But I would be sure that I had myself covered for the year after. Our solution last year was a healthy White. That didn;t happen. I hope that is not our solution for next year, but I think it is.
calculated at $16M per year, so he did a little better. He is also regarded as one of the best if not the best in the league at his position
4 years 68 mill, 17 mill per year over all and 18.5 mill per year over the first 3 years of the deal. Again...a rising tide raises all ships. So whether Alshon is in the same league as Antonio Brown doesn't matter. All that matters is he is going to be the best receiver on the free agent market, a market in which a lot of receiver needy teams will have a lot of money to spend.
Post by brasilbear on Feb 27, 2017 20:03:51 GMT -6
And thats what some people can't do. They can't separate the concepts of player value and market value. The two things aren't similar. Because of the past two years Jeffery's player value might have taken a hit but his market value is going to be high because he'll be the best WR on the open market. Its the same effect that QBs get in the draft. A player might not have good value (didn't work under center, accuracy problems, too short, etc) but because the position is so important, his market value moves him up in the draft.
Like some of us have been saying, Jeffery is going to get 14.5 a season. His guarantees might be lower and with more incentives, but he's going to get paid. It won't reflect his player value but it will reflect his market value. The Bears are full of players whose contacts don't reflect player value. Some of those guys have guaranteed money left and some don't. Its the nature of the game and the cap and free agency.
The only thing I do know? I fear the OFF will be worse next season than it was this season. Hoyer or Barkley or Shaw or a rookie, Howard facing 8 man boxes on a regular basis, no Jeffery pulling the double teams, White still a question mark, Miller still a question mark...I hope Meredith makes big strides this off season because it might be the Meredith and Howard show next season as the Bears stumble to 7-9.
And thats what some people can't do. They can't separate the concepts of player value and market value. The two things aren't similar. Because of the past two years Jeffery's player value might have taken a hit but his market value is going to be high because he'll be the best WR on the open market. Its the same effect that QBs get in the draft. A player might not have good value (didn't work under center, accuracy problems, too short, etc) but because the position is so important, his market value moves him up in the draft.
Like some of us have been saying, Jeffery is going to get 14.5 a season. His guarantees might be lower and with more incentives, but he's going to get paid. It won't reflect his player value but it will reflect his market value. The Bears are full of players whose contacts don't reflect player value. Some of those guys have guaranteed money left and some don't. Its the nature of the game and the cap and free agency.
The only thing I do know? I fear the OFF will be worse next season than it was this season. Hoyer or Barkley or Shaw or a rookie, Howard facing 8 man boxes on a regular basis, no Jeffery pulling the double teams, White still a question mark, Miller still a question mark...I hope Meredith makes big strides this off season because it might be the Meredith and Howard show next season as the Bears stumble to 7-9.
Jeffrey is going to get paid. There is no doubt. Whether or not he will be worth it depends on how much he contributes. IMO, how much he contributes will not be limited by his ability as much as his availability.
This makes it even more egregious not getting anything for Alshon at the trade deadline. This sums up everything pretty well:
Alshon Jeffery decision puts Bears at disadvantage
Jeff Dickerson ESPN Staff Writer
Permitting Alshon Jeffery to reach free agency hurts the Chicago Bears on multiple levels.
Say what you want about Jeffery's past two seasons -- derailed because of injuries and suspension -- but he's an accomplished and coveted player. Jeffery averaged 72.2 receiving yards per game for the Bears; only Brandon Marshall (78.3) averaged more per game in team history (32-game minimum). Wide receivers like Jeffery, 27, rarely hit free agency -- most teams go out of their way to extend No. 1 receivers. There will be substantial interest in Jeffery’s services beginning March 9, and the Bears' reluctance to engage in any recent meaningful contract talks puts them at a disadvantage. Jeffery wants to play for a contender and will strongly explore all options.
Without Jeffery, the Bears are vulnerable at wide receiver.
Alshon Jeffery put up solid numbers in Chicago, but the Bears apparently felt his price was too much for another season. Stacy Revere/Getty Images The franchise hasn’t abandoned hope of 2015 first-round pick Kevin White developing into a star player. Unfortunately, White has suffered two separate season-ending injuries to the same leg since the Bears drafted him. There is no way of knowing if he’ll ever pan out. Veteran Eddie Royal has enjoyed a fruitful NFL career, but he has been unable to stay healthy the past two years. Royal -- in the final year of his contract -- is set to earn $5 million, but none of it is guaranteed. Former seventh-rounder Marquess Wilson, who is seemingly always hurt, is coming out of his original rookie contract. Receivers such as Josh Bellamy (restricted free agent) and Deonte Thompson (exclusive rights free agent), who played large roles in 2017, are better suited for special teams. Daniel Braverman, Chicago’s 2016 seventh-round choice, barely played last year as a rookie.
Third-year receiver Cameron Meredith is coming off an impressive season, but no one is ready to anoint him a No. 1.
The Jeffery decision creates a gaping hole on the depth chart. The Bears have to get serious about pursuing receivers in free agency and the draft, but will any be better than Jeffery? Remember, Jeffery has 13 career 100-yard receiving games. And from 2013-14, Jeffery combined for 174 receptions, 2,554 yards and 17 touchdowns.
That’s not easy production to replace.
Yes, $17.5 million is a large salary-cap number for one player to carry. But Chicago is positioned to be in the top five in cap space (the cap is also expanding), and that is before $13 million is cleared with the expected release or trade of Jay Cutler.
Speaking of quarterback, the Bears are moving on from Cutler and therefore are expected to have a new starter in Week 1. If the new quarterback happens to be a younger player, or maybe even Jimmy Garoppolo, whom is he supposed to throw the ball to? The Bears plan to prioritize an offseason quarterback upgrade, yet allow the club’s most decorated receiver to walk away for nothing? Even a veteran bridge quarterback -- Brian Hoyer, for example -- can thrive only with quality receivers.
The Bears have essentially left the cupboard bare -- unless they aggressively address receiver next month and beyond.
But Chicago already had glaring needs at quarterback, tight end, cornerback and safety before they declined to apply a second tag on Jeffery.
Why create another unnecessary void on the roster?
Sorry to say this but this has nothing to with Jeffery, it has do totally on the Bears owners. Just like back in Lovie and AJ days. It's the sick obsession the owner and management and in their misguided believe that all the Bears need is a great Defense and maybe a good Special Teams (filled with young Defensive talent) and to hell with the Offense. And if you don't believe just don't believe me just look at the past few years and all Offense talent the Bears have lost or given away.
And thats what some people can't do. They can't separate the concepts of player value and market value. The two things aren't similar. Because of the past two years Jeffery's player value might have taken a hit but his market value is going to be high because he'll be the best WR on the open market. Its the same effect that QBs get in the draft. A player might not have good value (didn't work under center, accuracy problems, too short, etc) but because the position is so important, his market value moves him up in the draft.
Like some of us have been saying, Jeffery is going to get 14.5 a season. His guarantees might be lower and with more incentives, but he's going to get paid. It won't reflect his player value but it will reflect his market value. The Bears are full of players whose contacts don't reflect player value. Some of those guys have guaranteed money left and some don't. Its the nature of the game and the cap and free agency.
The only thing I do know? I fear the OFF will be worse next season than it was this season. Hoyer or Barkley or Shaw or a rookie, Howard facing 8 man boxes on a regular basis, no Jeffery pulling the double teams, White still a question mark, Miller still a question mark...I hope Meredith makes big strides this off season because it might be the Meredith and Howard show next season as the Bears stumble to 7-9.
BB, I certainly get it. It is exactly why Houston paid Osweiler 4/72M. The market dictated his price.
This makes it even more egregious not getting anything for Alshon at the trade deadline. This sums up everything pretty well:
Alshon Jeffery decision puts Bears at disadvantage
Jeff Dickerson ESPN Staff Writer
Permitting Alshon Jeffery to reach free agency hurts the Chicago Bears on multiple levels.
Say what you want about Jeffery's past two seasons -- derailed because of injuries and suspension -- but he's an accomplished and coveted player. Jeffery averaged 72.2 receiving yards per game for the Bears; only Brandon Marshall (78.3) averaged more per game in team history (32-game minimum). Wide receivers like Jeffery, 27, rarely hit free agency -- most teams go out of their way to extend No. 1 receivers. There will be substantial interest in Jeffery’s services beginning March 9, and the Bears' reluctance to engage in any recent meaningful contract talks puts them at a disadvantage. Jeffery wants to play for a contender and will strongly explore all options.
Without Jeffery, the Bears are vulnerable at wide receiver.
Alshon Jeffery put up solid numbers in Chicago, but the Bears apparently felt his price was too much for another season. Stacy Revere/Getty Images The franchise hasn’t abandoned hope of 2015 first-round pick Kevin White developing into a star player. Unfortunately, White has suffered two separate season-ending injuries to the same leg since the Bears drafted him. There is no way of knowing if he’ll ever pan out. Veteran Eddie Royal has enjoyed a fruitful NFL career, but he has been unable to stay healthy the past two years. Royal -- in the final year of his contract -- is set to earn $5 million, but none of it is guaranteed. Former seventh-rounder Marquess Wilson, who is seemingly always hurt, is coming out of his original rookie contract. Receivers such as Josh Bellamy (restricted free agent) and Deonte Thompson (exclusive rights free agent), who played large roles in 2017, are better suited for special teams. Daniel Braverman, Chicago’s 2016 seventh-round choice, barely played last year as a rookie.
Third-year receiver Cameron Meredith is coming off an impressive season, but no one is ready to anoint him a No. 1.
The Jeffery decision creates a gaping hole on the depth chart. The Bears have to get serious about pursuing receivers in free agency and the draft, but will any be better than Jeffery? Remember, Jeffery has 13 career 100-yard receiving games. And from 2013-14, Jeffery combined for 174 receptions, 2,554 yards and 17 touchdowns.
That’s not easy production to replace.
Yes, $17.5 million is a large salary-cap number for one player to carry. But Chicago is positioned to be in the top five in cap space (the cap is also expanding), and that is before $13 million is cleared with the expected release or trade of Jay Cutler.
Speaking of quarterback, the Bears are moving on from Cutler and therefore are expected to have a new starter in Week 1. If the new quarterback happens to be a younger player, or maybe even Jimmy Garoppolo, whom is he supposed to throw the ball to? The Bears plan to prioritize an offseason quarterback upgrade, yet allow the club’s most decorated receiver to walk away for nothing? Even a veteran bridge quarterback -- Brian Hoyer, for example -- can thrive only with quality receivers.
The Bears have essentially left the cupboard bare -- unless they aggressively address receiver next month and beyond.
But Chicago already had glaring needs at quarterback, tight end, cornerback and safety before they declined to apply a second tag on Jeffery.
Why create another unnecessary void on the roster?
Sorry to say this but this has nothing to with Jeffery, it has do totally on the Bears owners. Just like back in Lovie and AJ days. It's the sick obsession the owner and management and in their misguided believe that all the Bears need is a great Defense and maybe a good Special Teams (filled with young Defensive talent) and to hell with the Offense. And if you don't believe just don't believe me just look at the past few years and all Offense talent the Bears have lost or given away.
It's the coaches IMO. Emery and Trestman were much more Offensive (unfortunately in several ways) than Fox (and Pace). It's just who is building the team. Emery and Trestman were a breath of fresh air when it came to giving the offense some attention, but they had no clue what they were doing.