best way to fix the team is to fix the qb and the ol and dl, then everything else. Find the right QB and it fixes a lot of other issues.
And if Pace has someone on his board who he believes is truly a franchise QB, he should take him. Even if commentators, analysts, fans think it is "over drafting".
Once you get your franchise QB, then you start building your offense around him.
Agreed, and vice versa, if there isn't a qb he thinks is draftable then he shouldn't. Either drop back and get more picks, or take the guy you think is worth the 3rd pick.
I agree with you. Why on earth wait until you are in a full-blown crisis mode like we are, to begin thinking about drafting a franchise QB? I think that is stupid. Failure to be pro-active. And it is one thing that makes me crazy angry with the Bears over the past many years. And if you end up with too many good depth QBs then you can sell one for picks. It is a brilliant strategy.
The Bears are always blindsided and reacting, rather than being ready for change. It's management by crisis. And I am not just talking about the QB position here. This is a roster-wide issue.
Just one example (from many) was the Brian Urlacher transition. Brian was going downhill towards the end. He was getting slower and struggled to make the plays he had easily made his entire career. Where was the young gun on the roster to step up and replace him? Urlacher was the QB of the defense. He was just as important to our D as any QB on offense. When Urlacher was gone it hurt. Briggs wasn't the answer, and he was coming to the end of his own career soon, anyway. We just lurched around and had no clue. It just seems like our way of doing things on the Bears. We had crap drafting, and then we had crap management and planning on top of that. Of course one affects the other too.
What a crap fest with our personnel acquisition over the many years.
This is precisely why I have not been in favor of the Bears using their #3 pick in the draft on a QB. Teams get in crisis mode at the QB position as it is the single most important position in arguably all of team sports and teams can't help themselves to reach for a QB. It's partly why there are more busts at this position up high because they never should have been chosen so high, which then adds to the pressure on the player and it is a cascading effect. I don't think it's impossible that a QB taken in the top 3 of this draft will go on to be one of the better in the league, but if you look historically (minus the consensus #1s like Payton Manning & Luck) it's not all that likely.
There are QB's in this draft that I don't view as a reach at 3 however, so I have to disagree with ya on that one.
Here's a great article breaking down bust rates and why the perceived bust rates might actually not be so accurate:
The "safest" offensive skill position to draft in the first round is actually RUNNING BACK(you hear that MOTM?). However look at QB...you better grab one in round 1 or 2.
best way to fix the team is to fix the qb and the ol and dl, then everything else. Find the right QB and it fixes a lot of other issues.
And if Pace has someone on his board who he believes is truly a franchise QB, he should take him. Even if commentators, analysts, fans think it is "over drafting".
Once you get your franchise QB, then you start building your offense around him.
QB has to get fixed bottom line. I don't give a crap how it gets done, but it needs to get done. If you want to win in this league on a sustained basis you need to have a QB....thats been proven.
I agree with you. Why on earth wait until you are in a full-blown crisis mode like we are, to begin thinking about drafting a franchise QB? I think that is stupid. Failure to be pro-active. And it is one thing that makes me crazy angry with the Bears over the past many years. And if you end up with too many good depth QBs then you can sell one for picks. It is a brilliant strategy.
The Bears are always blindsided and reacting, rather than being ready for change. It's management by crisis. And I am not just talking about the QB position here. This is a roster-wide issue.
Just one example (from many) was the Brian Urlacher transition. Brian was going downhill towards the end. He was getting slower and struggled to make the plays he had easily made his entire career. Where was the young gun on the roster to step up and replace him? Urlacher was the QB of the defense. He was just as important to our D as any QB on offense. When Urlacher was gone it hurt. Briggs wasn't the answer, and he was coming to the end of his own career soon, anyway. We just lurched around and had no clue. It just seems like our way of doing things on the Bears. We had crap drafting, and then we had crap management and planning on top of that. Of course one affects the other too.
What a crap fest with our personnel acquisition over the many years.
This is precisely why I have not been in favor of the Bears using their #3 pick in the draft on a QB. Teams get in crisis mode at the QB position as it is the single most important position in arguably all of team sports and teams can't help themselves to reach for a QB. It's partly why there are more busts at this position up high because they never should have been chosen so high, which then adds to the pressure on the player and it is a cascading effect. I don't think it's impossible that a QB taken in the top 3 of this draft will go on to be one of the better in the league, but if you look historically (minus the consensus #1s like Payton Manning & Luck) it's not all that likely.
I agree.... Yet at the same time, it takes a high pick to have a better chance at getting the QB that the team thinks will be the QB to lead the team to the playoffs. We have one now and not sure when we will draft this high again. So you have to put the crisis thing aside and look to see if there is a QB that you think is the guy. If he is, you take him. We can't afford to squander this pick on anything but the most important position on the team.
If we hit on a QB with this pick, we really don;t need this high a pick any more (would be nice for a top WR, DE or LT ---- but we can get by with mid or lower round picks or even trade up). Once you don;t have to keep playing in the QB derby, your draft really frees up to being able to go after BPA. Until that point in time, you can make your team better, but still not sure how far you would get.
What sets NE apart from all the rest is their system (allowing them to draft and plug players who fit it) and coaching. We sorely lack in these areas and have for a long time. The question I have is: is Fox and his staff capable of installing such a system for our Bears? I think Pace can draft, I'm just not convinced Fox and company are the ones to take us to the next level.
What sets NE apart from all the rest is their system (allowing them to draft and plug players who fit it) and coaching. We sorely lack in these areas and have for a long time. The question I have is: is Fox and his staff capable of installing such a system for our Bears? I think Pace can draft, I'm just not convinced Fox and company are the ones to take us to the next level.
I wonder about the same thing. One other benefit that New England has is stability. Once you have a solid franchise and coaching, it is a HUGE benefit to have continuity. Constant change on a team is not good. Belichick has the NE team running like a fine Swiss watch. Stable. Strong.
The Bears have just lurched through constant change. The offense seems to have gone through endless scheme and coaching changes. Head coaches change too. GMs change. The entire roster has pretty much turned over in the past 2 years.
I'm actually surprised you guys still think Fox is capable of installing such a system. Yes, people change and so do coaches. Fox is an old style coach and it seems to me he thinks he has it all figured out and I don;t see a lot of bend in him. Either in the way he does things or in the way he is willing to work with players with talent that need discipline. The man is fairly old. People change, but that tends to happen less and less the older you get. JMO
I'm actually surprised you guys still think Fox is capable of installing such a system. Yes, people change and so do coaches. Fox is an old style coach and it seems to me he thinks he has it all figured out and I don;t see a lot of bend in him. Either in the way he does things or in the way he is willing to work with players with talent that need discipline. The man is fairly old. People change, but that tends to happen less and less the older you get. JMO
Belichick is some spring chicken? I don't disagree with some of your points...but it has nothing to do with age.
I'm actually surprised you guys still think Fox is capable of installing such a system. Yes, people change and so do coaches. Fox is an old style coach and it seems to me he thinks he has it all figured out and I don;t see a lot of bend in him. Either in the way he does things or in the way he is willing to work with players with talent that need discipline. The man is fairly old. People change, but that tends to happen less and less the older you get. JMO
Belichick is some spring chicken? I don't disagree with some of your points...but it has nothing to do with age.
I disagree. I think age does ply a part. As a matter of fact, that's why I mentioned it!