I noticed something about Deshaun Watson

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I noticed something about Deshaun Watson Jan 22, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Jan 22, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6

Take a look at the following pictures and infer what they all have in common.

Do you see it?

Apparently Watson's been wearing a knee brace on his left leg since 2014.

From his Wikipedia page:

On October 11, 2014, Watson broke a bone in his right hand in a game against the Louisville Cardinals. He left in the 1st quarter and was out for the game and also out for the games against Boston College, Syracuse, & Wake Forest. He would return for the game against Georgia Tech only to suffer an LCL strain, missing most of the game. During the following week in practice it was reported that Watson had tweaked his knee; it was later revealed that he had torn his ACL. Watson would not play against Georgia State the following week. But he did come back the following week to play against state rival South Carolina; after defeating the Gamecocks it was revealed to the public that Watson had played the game with a torn ACL.

Against Syracuse on November 5, 2016, Watson had 169 passing yards with two touchdowns, but left the game with a bruised shoulder.

Watson is without a doubt an amazing player, but I do wonder if his body is strong enough to survive hits and sacks in the NFL.

I'm not a doctor and I certainly don't wanna try to make something out of nothing, but shouldn't you only wear knee braces when your knee is weak and vulnerable? I only ask because the only QB I remember wearing a knee brace during games is RG3.

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I noticed something about Deshaun Watson Jan 22, 2017 14:54:24 GMT -6 JABF, blueshoes, and 3 more like this

Post by butkus3595 on Jan 22, 2017 14:54:24 GMT -6

Jan 22, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Take a look at the following pictures and infer what they all have in common.

Do you see it?

Apparently Watson's been wearing a knee brace on his left leg since 2014.

From his Wikipedia page:

On October 11, 2014, Watson broke a bone in his right hand in a game against the Louisville Cardinals. He left in the 1st quarter and was out for the game and also out for the games against Boston College, Syracuse, & Wake Forest. He would return for the game against Georgia Tech only to suffer an LCL strain, missing most of the game. During the following week in practice it was reported that Watson had tweaked his knee; it was later revealed that he had torn his ACL. Watson would not play against Georgia State the following week. But he did come back the following week to play against state rival South Carolina; after defeating the Gamecocks it was revealed to the public that Watson had played the game with a torn ACL.

Against Syracuse on November 5, 2016, Watson had 169 passing yards with two touchdowns, but left the game with a bruised shoulder.

Watson is without a doubt an amazing player, but I do wonder if his body is strong enough to survive hits and sacks in the NFL.

I'm not a doctor and I certainly don't wanna try to make something out of nothing, but shouldn't you only wear knee braces when your knee is weak and vulnerable? I only ask because the only QB I remember wearing a knee brace during games is RG3.

butkus3595 thoughts?

Well....the dude played with it! I'd think that would bump him up with this crowd. Either way the year after he played with that torn ACL he went out and ran for over 1000 yards. You're pointing out 3 different injuries in 3 years. None of them having anything to do with the other. You're really worried...or are you just trying to find a hole where none exists? He's 6'3'' 215....you're acting like he's 185.

You'll also notice the brace is on his plant leg. A lot of QB's wear braces on that leg because they often get hit low there. Even if they never hurt their knees before. In fact Vanderbilt has all their QB's wear braces. Most o-lineman wear them even if they've never hurt their knees. Tom Brady, Big Ben, Jameis Winston, Alex Smith, Mariota, Brees, and Matt Ryan all wear a brace on their plant leg.

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Knee braces are a topic of some controversy. While a lot of college programs (and professional organizations) swear by them, when studies investigate their effectiveness the data is inconclusive and somewhat contrary to popular thought:

Pietrosimone, however, was part of a group that did a systematic review of all studies on whether knee braces prevent injury in 2008 and concluded that the issue was not so clear-cut. The methodology of the studies was flawed in many cases, the review found, and several studies even indicated that wearing braces might increase — not decrease — the risk of knee injury. - SAM BORDENJAN. 8, 2017

www.nytimes.com/2017/01/08/sports/ncaafootball/college-football-playoff-alabama-clemson-knee-braces.html

Watson's use of the brace, therefore, may be a result of superstitious or protectionist thinking by the coaching staff. It could also be a personal comfort device after suffering an ACL tear.

I have a few acquaintances who played on the line in college and were forced to wear this contraptions. Most did not want to do so as they are cumbersome, noisy and smell like shit.

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I noticed something about Deshaun Watson Jan 23, 2017 7:18:17 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Jan 23, 2017 7:18:17 GMT -6

Jan 22, 2017 15:58:04 GMT -6 @belliot said:

butkus3595 GrizzlyBear
Knee braces are a topic of some controversy. While a lot of college programs (and professional organizations) swear by them, when studies investigate their effectiveness the data is inconclusive and somewhat contrary to popular thought:

Pietrosimone, however, was part of a group that did a systematic review of all studies on whether knee braces prevent injury in 2008 and concluded that the issue was not so clear-cut. The methodology of the studies was flawed in many cases, the review found, and several studies even indicated that wearing braces might increase — not decrease — the risk of knee injury. - SAM BORDENJAN. 8, 2017

www.nytimes.com/2017/01/08/sports/ncaafootball/college-football-playoff-alabama-clemson-knee-braces.html

Watson's use of the brace, therefore, may be a result of superstitious or protectionist thinking by the coaching staff. It could also be a personal comfort device after suffering an ACL tear.

I have a few acquaintances who played on the line in college and were forced to wear this contraptions. Most did not want to do so as they are cumbersome, noisy and smell like shit.

Thanks for posting that article! Good read.

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I noticed something about Deshaun Watson Jan 23, 2017 7:23:21 GMT -6 riczaj01 and butkus3595 like this

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Jan 22, 2017 14:54:24 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Well....the dude played with it! I'd think that would bump him up with this crowd. Either way the year after he played with that torn ACL he went out and ran for over 1000 yards. You're pointing out 3 different injuries in 3 years. None of them having anything to do with the other. You're really worried...or are you just trying to find a hole where none exists? He's 6'3'' 215....you're acting like he's 185.

You'll also notice the brace is on his plant leg. A lot of QB's wear braces on that leg because they often get hit low there. Even if they never hurt their knees before. In fact Vanderbilt has all their QB's wear braces. Most o-lineman wear them even if they've never hurt their knees. Tom Brady, Big Ben, Jameis Winston, Alex Smith, Mariota, Brees, and Matt Ryan all wear a brace on their plant leg.

See, I did not know that. Thx

And no, I'm not trying to find a hole. ^^ I'm a big Watson fan. The last thing I want is for us to draft our future face of the franchise and "savior" who'll make us relevant again and then be disappointed after one season because he's just another RG3. That's all.

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Jan 22, 2017 14:54:24 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Jan 22, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Take a look at the following pictures and infer what they all have in common.

Do you see it?

Apparently Watson's been wearing a knee brace on his left leg since 2014.

From his Wikipedia page:

Watson is without a doubt an amazing player, but I do wonder if his body is strong enough to survive hits and sacks in the NFL.

I'm not a doctor and I certainly don't wanna try to make something out of nothing, but shouldn't you only wear knee braces when your knee is weak and vulnerable? I only ask because the only QB I remember wearing a knee brace during games is RG3.

butkus3595 thoughts?

Well....the dude played with it! I'd think that would bump him up with this crowd. Either way the year after he played with that torn ACL he went out and ran for over 1000 yards. You're pointing out 3 different injuries in 3 years. None of them having anything to do with the other. You're really worried...or are you just trying to find a hole where none exists? He's 6'3'' 215....you're acting like he's 185.

You'll also notice the brace is on his plant leg. A lot of QB's wear braces on that leg because they often get hit low there. Even if they never hurt their knees before. In fact Vanderbilt has all their QB's wear braces. Most o-lineman wear them even if they've never hurt their knees. Tom Brady, Big Ben, Jameis Winston, Alex Smith, Mariota, Brees, and Matt Ryan all wear a brace on their plant leg.

Roberto Garza played for years without an ACL. One tough guy for sure. I found out that a number of great NFL players played without ACLs too. Here's an interesting article about them. Some tough dudes:

LINK (follow the link to read the entire article... it's best read on their web site):

Athletes Who Played Without ACLs

Sport: Football

Team: New England Patriots, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Career Stats: 136 Games Played, 136 Games Started

Awards: 6x Pro Bowler, 5x All-Pro, 2x AFC Champion

ACL Status: Tore right knee ACL in preseason, played entire 2011 season without ACL including Super Bowl XLVI

Logan Mankins suffered an ACL tear in his knee while a junior at Fresno State, but that was really just an appetizer for the ligament damage he would suffer later in his professional career. In 2011, after signing a deal making him the highest paid guard in the NFL, he tore his ACL and reportedly kept the injury to himself. He only found out how serious the injury was when he later suffered an MCL tear in the other knee during a divisional playoff game. What did he then do with ligament tears in both knees?

He played in the Super Bowl. Of course.

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Jan 23, 2017 9:18:16 GMT -6 JABF said:

Jan 22, 2017 14:54:24 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Well....the dude played with it! I'd think that would bump him up with this crowd. Either way the year after he played with that torn ACL he went out and ran for over 1000 yards. You're pointing out 3 different injuries in 3 years. None of them having anything to do with the other. You're really worried...or are you just trying to find a hole where none exists? He's 6'3'' 215....you're acting like he's 185.

You'll also notice the brace is on his plant leg. A lot of QB's wear braces on that leg because they often get hit low there. Even if they never hurt their knees before. In fact Vanderbilt has all their QB's wear braces. Most o-lineman wear them even if they've never hurt their knees. Tom Brady, Big Ben, Jameis Winston, Alex Smith, Mariota, Brees, and Matt Ryan all wear a brace on their plant leg.

Roberto Garza played for years without an ACL. One tough guy for sure. I found out that a number of great NFL players played without ACLs too. Here's an interesting article about them. Some tough dudes:

LINK (follow the link to read the entire article... it's best read on their web site):

Athletes Who Played Without ACLs

Sport: Football

Team: New England Patriots, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Career Stats: 136 Games Played, 136 Games Started

Awards: 6x Pro Bowler, 5x All-Pro, 2x AFC Champion

ACL Status: Tore right knee ACL in preseason, played entire 2011 season without ACL including Super Bowl XLVI

Logan Mankins suffered an ACL tear in his knee while a junior at Fresno State, but that was really just an appetizer for the ligament damage he would suffer later in his professional career. In 2011, after signing a deal making him the highest paid guard in the NFL, he tore his ACL and reportedly kept the injury to himself. He only found out how serious the injury was when he later suffered an MCL tear in the other knee during a divisional playoff game. What did he then do with ligament tears in both knees?

He played in the Super Bowl. Of course.

.

To be fair, because I don't now want everyone to think one can just simply play with a torn ACL, there are varying degrees and each positions demand on that ligament will determine whether they should or should not play with that injury.

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Jan 23, 2017 9:21:11 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Jan 23, 2017 9:18:16 GMT -6 JABF said:

Roberto Garza played for years without an ACL. One tough guy for sure. I found out that a number of great NFL players played without ACLs too. Here's an interesting article about them. Some tough dudes:

Sport: Football

Team: New England Patriots, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Career Stats: 136 Games Played, 136 Games Started

Awards: 6x Pro Bowler, 5x All-Pro, 2x AFC Champion

ACL Status: Tore right knee ACL in preseason, played entire 2011 season without ACL including Super Bowl XLVI

Logan Mankins suffered an ACL tear in his knee while a junior at Fresno State, but that was really just an appetizer for the ligament damage he would suffer later in his professional career. In 2011, after signing a deal making him the highest paid guard in the NFL, he tore his ACL and reportedly kept the injury to himself. He only found out how serious the injury was when he later suffered an MCL tear in the other knee during a divisional playoff game. What did he then do with ligament tears in both knees?

He played in the Super Bowl. Of course.

.

To be fair, because I don't now want everyone to think one can just simply play with a torn ACL, there are varying degrees and each positions demand on that ligament will determine whether they should or should not play with that injury.

Point well taken. LOL, but some of those guys would play if they lost a leg I think. It may not have been the smart thing to do, but I do find those stories amazing. Roberto Garza was a really nice guy with the fans too. When my kids were young we'd go to training camp every summer. Garza was one of the guys who would sign kids autographs after practices (he never blew off the kids like some players would). Some of those days would be brutally hot, and Garza would be dripping wet with sweat after practice - but he would spend a ton of time talking with the children and signing their footballs and jerseys and stuff. I used to watch him do that and think about how the guy could have been in the shower cooling off, but no, he was just a "gentle giant" of a guy who cared about the fans, especially the kids.

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Jan 23, 2017 9:30:18 GMT -6 JABF said:

Jan 23, 2017 9:21:11 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

To be fair, because I don't now want everyone to think one can just simply play with a torn ACL, there are varying degrees and each positions demand on that ligament will determine whether they should or should not play with that injury.

Point well taken. LOL, but some of those guys would play if they lost a leg I think. It may not have been the smart thing to do, but I do find those stories amazing. Roberto Garza was a really nice guy with the fans too. When my kids were young we'd go to training camp every summer. Garza was one of the guys who would sign kids autographs after practices (he never blew off the kids like some players would). Some of those days would be brutally hot, and Garza would be dripping wet with sweat after practice - but he would spend a ton of time talking with the children and signing their footballs and jerseys and stuff. I used to watch him do that and think about how the guy could have been in the shower cooling off, but no, he was just a "gentle giant" of a guy who cared about the fans, especially the kids.

Today we all realize that it was the Garza protein donuts that allowed him to stay out there past everyone else.

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