After surprising coordinator, Bears’ Jordan Howard nears record
As a kid, Jordan Howard idolized LaDainian Tomlinson.
In college, he switched to Marshawn Lynch.
“How difficult it was to bring him down,” he said.
The switch is indicative of the rookie’s running style — and, perhaps, his NFL success. Howard needs 61 yards Sunday against the Vikings to break Matt Forte’s Bears rookie rushing record, which sits at 1,238.
Offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains said Thursday he didn’t grasp Howard’s talent until, perhaps, Week 3 against the Cowboys. The reason, he said: Howard’s physical rushing style translated to games better than practices.
“I’m gonna be real honest when I say this: I didn’t see the greatness in Jordan in OTAs and training camp,” Loggains said. “Part of it was because he was hurt. Part of it is because he’s a much better play when the shoulder pads are on and it’s live — because he’s a big back and he’s hard to tackle. …
“His running style is different. It’s sometimes hard to see that, where you can see other guys’ quickness and stuff like that show up. You don’t get to see the vision, because it’s not live.”
Loggains said Howard’s biggest area of growth is his ability to read where linebackers fit in against run blocks. Howard said he’ll try to improve route-running and focus this offseason.
Before then, though, is Sunday’s chance at the record. Howard said it means a lot to him, but also his linemen.
He’ll get them end-of-year thank-you gifts, too — despite being on a rookie, late-round budget.
“I definitely need to get that figured out pretty soon,” he said.
After surprising coordinator, Bears’ Jordan Howard nears record
As a kid, Jordan Howard idolized LaDainian Tomlinson.
In college, he switched to Marshawn Lynch.
“How difficult it was to bring him down,” he said.
The switch is indicative of the rookie’s running style — and, perhaps, his NFL success. Howard needs 61 yards Sunday against the Vikings to break Matt Forte’s Bears rookie rushing record, which sits at 1,238.
Offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains said Thursday he didn’t grasp Howard’s talent until, perhaps, Week 3 against the Cowboys. The reason, he said: Howard’s physical rushing style translated to games better than practices.
“I’m gonna be real honest when I say this: I didn’t see the greatness in Jordan in OTAs and training camp,” Loggains said. “Part of it was because he was hurt. Part of it is because he’s a much better play when the shoulder pads are on and it’s live — because he’s a big back and he’s hard to tackle. …
“His running style is different. It’s sometimes hard to see that, where you can see other guys’ quickness and stuff like that show up. You don’t get to see the vision, because it’s not live.”
Loggains said Howard’s biggest area of growth is his ability to read where linebackers fit in against run blocks. Howard said he’ll try to improve route-running and focus this offseason.
Before then, though, is Sunday’s chance at the record. Howard said it means a lot to him, but also his linemen.
He’ll get them end-of-year thank-you gifts, too — despite being on a rookie, late-round budget.
“I definitely need to get that figured out pretty soon,” he said.
The inability of some of our coaches to recognize actual talent is becoming legendary. Isn't an inability to recognize what a fullback or a power back can do in non-hitting and non-tackling practices somewhat a matter of common sense?
Why after he tore off a couple of 10-20 yard runs during the first game or two wasn't it obvious enough to get him more carries vs Lameford? Do I just need to accept that our OC is one of the most inexperienced rookies we have? I guess so if he's coming back.
I'm still puzzled by why experienced fans who have some decent fundamental knowledge of the game seem to have better instincts and observational skills than the guy who are actually getting paid to run the team. How do they fail to see what others don't fail to miss?
I dunno, it must be somewhat like trying to understand quantum theory or something but missing out on common sense solutions.
The inability of some of our coaches to recognize actual talent is becoming legendary. Isn't an inability to recognize what a fullback or a power back can do in non-hitting and non-tackling practices somewhat a matter of common sense?
Why after he tore off a couple of 10-20 yard runs during the first game or two wasn't it obvious enough to get him more carries vs Lameford? Do I just need to accept that our OC is one of the most inexperienced rookies we have? I guess so if he's coming back.
I'm still puzzled by why experienced fans who have some decent fundamental knowledge of the game seem to have better instincts and observational skills than the guy who are actually getting paid to run the team. How do they fail to see what others don't fail to miss?
I dunno, it must be somewhat like trying to understand quantum theory or something but missing out on common sense solutions.
ding ding. there is so much BS being thrown out here, it's unbelievable. There were more than enough indications. If you remember, fans were screaming about starting Howard for a few games before Langford got hurt and Fox finally had to try it. While these guys are pros and paid to see stuff, they are too close sometimes and sometimes they just do not see things. When you have a few million eyes on something, even stupid people are going to see stuff that might slip through the cracks. It's the law of averages.
Right now people are saying that there is something wrong with the Fox magic (not everyone, but enough). I think Fox will only last another year. However, my biggest fear is the Lovie syndrome. You could still see the ineptitude, but he improved enough a couple of times to fool people he was turning the corner. It is VERY possible the same thing will happen next year and that Fox will even get renewed. Then he will have to be let go later at even greater expense. It may not play out that way, but boy... I am starting to see the building blocks of that coming together.
Not gonna get all crazy over Howard's progression to the starting role. Prior to Langford's injury, it was clear the Bears were moving in the direction of giving Howard more snaps. Week 1 he had 0 snaps. Week 2 he had 11 snaps. Prior to Langford's injury in the Cowboy's game, Howard took over as the starter at the beginning of the 2nd QTR.
Post by butkus3595 on Dec 30, 2016 12:48:37 GMT -6
Lot's of coaches are very hesitant to play rookie running backs in this league, something about pass protection or something or other. It's why Paul Perkins is still behind Jennings here in NY and wasn't the first back used when he went down. As for Howard, he's a good running back...I don't think any of us ever disputed that. We just questioned whether he is an elite back...which I think is still fair to do.
Not gonna get all crazy over Howard's progression to the starting role. Prior to Langford's injury, it was clear the Bears were moving in the direction of giving Howard more snaps. Week 1 he had 0 snaps. Week 2 he had 11 snaps. Prior to Langford's injury in the Cowboy's game, Howard took over as the starter at the beginning of the 2nd QTR.
The inability of some of our coaches to recognize actual talent is becoming legendary. Isn't an inability to recognize what a fullback or a power back can do in non-hitting and non-tackling practices somewhat a matter of common sense?
Why after he tore off a couple of 10-20 yard runs during the first game or two wasn't it obvious enough to get him more carries vs Lameford? Do I just need to accept that our OC is one of the most inexperienced rookies we have? I guess so if he's coming back.
I'm still puzzled by why experienced fans who have some decent fundamental knowledge of the game seem to have better instincts and observational skills than the guy who are actually getting paid to run the team. How do they fail to see what others don't fail to miss?
I dunno, it must be somewhat like trying to understand quantum theory or something but missing out on common sense solutions.
ding ding. there is so much BS being thrown out here, it's unbelievable. There were more than enough indications. If you remember, fans were screaming about starting Howard for a few games before Langford got hurt and Fox finally had to try it. While these guys are pros and paid to see stuff, they are too close sometimes and sometimes they just do not see things. When you have a few million eyes on something, even stupid people are going to see stuff that might slip through the cracks. It's the law of averages.
Right now people are saying that there is something wrong with the Fox magic (not everyone, but enough). I think Fox will only last another year. However, my biggest fear is the Lovie syndrome. You could still see the ineptitude, but he improved enough a couple of times to fool people he was turning the corner. It is VERY possible the same thing will happen next year and that Fox will even get renewed. Then he will have to be let go later at even greater expense. It may not play out that way, but boy... I am starting to see the building blocks of that coming together.
Congrats there MSU. LOL You hit on two of my major points.
1) Following a 3-13 season what's the bar for 2017? Biggsy predicts no better than 8-8 and that's only if we can add more talent, stay much healthier, AND come up with a solution for a QB we can trust to win some games. Not a very high bar is it and only a 50% chance of hitting it?
On what planet under what color sky does that become a logical reason for maintaining status quo in the coaching ranks? If it's logic we seek to use then money not true progress is winning here as it often does and all those promises from early 2015 become as hollow as a dried up old gourd with nothing left but the seeds of dissension......mine mostly.
2) Belli or Butkus made a point about Fox being a transitional HC and I'm left wondering, a transition to what? IMHO that's the kind of thing you do when you fire a guy like Fox and ask his DC Fangio to take over in 2017 for the remainder of his contract and maybe extend him for more years if he does well.
That's a transitional HC not one you hire on a 4 year guaranteed deal or my understanding and definitions of transitions must need updating. The guy is 62 years old and like some older players he's in an obvious career decline now not an upswing. If it takes him two more years to reach the playoffs then he's 64 so where are we going with him and who takes over a transition who won't change everything unless it's a guy already being groomed to do it?
Had Gase not left that may have made some sense but that all went out the window when he left. So however I turn this picture to view it it only comes out wrong. There in no long term strategic benefit to keeping John Fox yet that appears to be exactly what will happen. Not wanting to payoff yet another HC before his deal is up is the ONLY logical answer I can come up with.