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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Surprised Teammates Sept 21, 2024 11:38:57 GMT -6 billymurray likes this

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We could really use this guy when he's ready to roll as a starter. He is a LT at the NFL level and has the attributes to be an elite level LT. Big, mean dude with 85.5" wingspan and arms over 36"... 6'5" 326 pounds quick-twitch guy. The Bears have him listed as Braxton Jones' backup (he won't be starting LT material this year). He's still developing. But he looks like a MUCH higher ceiling guy than Brax to me. Not this year though. Solid backup this year. Let him push Brax next year. Or, as davidl has suggested, it may make sense to move one of the tackles we have now, to G. Either way, this guy is a blue chip guy to have.

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If you get "The Athletic" this is a great article on KA. He sounds like a very high ceiling LT at the NFL level.

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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Surprised Teammates Sept 21, 2024 11:54:58 GMT -6 JABF likes this

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Sept 21, 2024 11:38:57 GMT -6 JABF said:

We could really use this guy when he's ready to roll as a starter. He is a LT at the NFL level and has the attributes to be an elite level LT. Big, mean dude with 85.5" wingspan and arms over 36"... 6'5" 326 pounds quick-twitch guy. The Bears have him listed as Braxton Jones' backup (he won't be starting LT material this year). He's still developing. But he looks like a MUCH higher ceiling guy than Brax to me. Not this year though. Solid backup this year. Let him push Brax next year. Or, as davidl has suggested, it may make sense to move one of the tackles we have now, to G. Either way, this guy is a blue chip guy to have.

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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Reportedly Surprised Teammates

If you get "The Athletic" this is a great article on KA. He sounds like a very high ceiling LT at the NFL level.

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Chicago Bears draft Kiran Amegadjie: How he fits, pick grade and scouting intel

Couldn't read the second article, but just kind of thinking out loud here. With his span, I think you waste him on the interior. I think T makes the most sense. But it is also where we are the least weak. So do we put him in at this point and weaken yet another position? I say that thinking that he has to be worse than our two tackles at this point in his career. Maybe that's not true, but I think it's probable. Do we put him in at a G? God knows we could use a fix there. But then he probably ends up getting moved later. Not that big a deal.... it happens all the time. Not sure he'd be that good at G. But then our Gs aren't that good now either. If he replaced a T, which one and would either of them be good at G? With his arm length, maybe C. He could just hand Williams the ball instead of tossing it to him. Bottom line is that IF you have a stud OL in him, there is definitely a place for him. Especially on this line. My biggest concern is that I'm not sure we have the horsepower on the OL to know what to do with him. Honestly, I think Thayer as a consultant would be a good idea.

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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Surprised Teammates Sept 21, 2024 12:09:40 GMT -6 shark86 likes this

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Sept 21, 2024 11:54:58 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Sept 21, 2024 11:38:57 GMT -6 JABF said:

We could really use this guy when he's ready to roll as a starter. He is a LT at the NFL level and has the attributes to be an elite level LT. Big, mean dude with 85.5" wingspan and arms over 36"... 6'5" 326 pounds quick-twitch guy. The Bears have him listed as Braxton Jones' backup (he won't be starting LT material this year). He's still developing. But he looks like a MUCH higher ceiling guy than Brax to me. Not this year though. Solid backup this year. Let him push Brax next year. Or, as davidl has suggested, it may make sense to move one of the tackles we have now, to G. Either way, this guy is a blue chip guy to have.

If you get "The Athletic" this is a great article on KA. He sounds like a very high ceiling LT at the NFL level.

Couldn't read the second article, but just kind of thinking out loud here. With his span, I think you waste him on the interior. I think T makes the most sense. But it is also where we are the least weak. So do we put him in at this point and weaken yet another position? I say that thinking that he has to be worse than our two tackles at this point in his career. Maybe that's not true, but I think it's probable. Do we put him in at a G? God knows we could use a fix there. But then he probably ends up getting moved later. Not that big a deal.... it happens all the time. Not sure he'd be that good at G. But then our Gs aren't that good now either. If he replaced a T, which one and would either of them be good at G? With his arm length, maybe C. He could just hand Williams the ball instead of tossing it to him. Bottom line is that IF you have a stud OL in him, there is definitely a place for him. Especially on this line. My biggest concern is that I'm not sure we have the horsepower on the OL to know what to do with him. Honestly, I think Thayer as a consultant would be a good idea.

I figure the tackles are set for this season and KA is probably a very decent backup. He's raw as can be at this point. One other thought is that Braxton Jones is a free agent after next season ends. The team has options here with KA and could move on from Brax and save a chunk of LT money. Maybe even trade Brax too, because he probably would have decent value. But that's all next year stuff.

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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Surprised Teammates Sept 21, 2024 12:52:22 GMT -6 JABF and shark86 like this

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Sept 21, 2024 12:09:40 GMT -6 JABF said:

Sept 21, 2024 11:54:58 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Couldn't read the second article, but just kind of thinking out loud here. With his span, I think you waste him on the interior. I think T makes the most sense. But it is also where we are the least weak. So do we put him in at this point and weaken yet another position? I say that thinking that he has to be worse than our two tackles at this point in his career. Maybe that's not true, but I think it's probable. Do we put him in at a G? God knows we could use a fix there. But then he probably ends up getting moved later. Not that big a deal.... it happens all the time. Not sure he'd be that good at G. But then our Gs aren't that good now either. If he replaced a T, which one and would either of them be good at G? With his arm length, maybe C. He could just hand Williams the ball instead of tossing it to him. Bottom line is that IF you have a stud OL in him, there is definitely a place for him. Especially on this line. My biggest concern is that I'm not sure we have the horsepower on the OL to know what to do with him. Honestly, I think Thayer as a consultant would be a good idea.

I figure the tackles are set for this season and KA is probably a very decent backup. He's raw as can be at this point. One other thought is that Braxton Jones is a free agent after next season ends. The team has options here with KA and could move on from Brax and save a chunk of LT money. Maybe even trade Brax too, because he probably would have decent value. But that's all next year stuff.

If he can play LT better than Brax, then he can also play RT better than Wright. I am sure Wright can play guard better than Brax. If we did all those moves, all we need in the draft is a center.

I would get him and Pryor some time at RG this season to see how they look. Bench Davis now. He is supposedly injured again.

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Sept 21, 2024 12:52:22 GMT -6 davidl said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:09:40 GMT -6 JABF said:

I figure the tackles are set for this season and KA is probably a very decent backup. He's raw as can be at this point. One other thought is that Braxton Jones is a free agent after next season ends. The team has options here with KA and could move on from Brax and save a chunk of LT money. Maybe even trade Brax too, because he probably would have decent value. But that's all next year stuff.

If he can play LT better than Brax, then he can also play RT better than Wright. I am sure Wright can play guard better than Brax. If we did all those moves, all we need in the draft is a center.

I would get him and Pryor some time at RG this season to see how they look. Bench Davis now. He is supposedly injured again.

I gave Nate Davis a flyer last season losing his mom and never getting it together with a new team. Season 2 zero excuses, the guy is a bum. I can't ever remember a bigger bum on the Bears O Line than this guy - and his money grab. I have to believe the only reason he is still a Bear is McCaskeys looking at dollars with no sense. I cant wait to see Matt Pryor tomorrow.

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Sept 21, 2024 23:19:57 GMT -6 billymurray said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:52:22 GMT -6 davidl said:

If he can play LT better than Brax, then he can also play RT better than Wright. I am sure Wright can play guard better than Brax. If we did all those moves, all we need in the draft is a center.

I would get him and Pryor some time at RG this season to see how they look. Bench Davis now. He is supposedly injured again.

I gave Nate Davis a flyer last season losing his mom and never getting it together with a new team. Season 2 zero excuses, the guy is a bum. I can't ever remember a bigger bum on the Bears O Line than this guy - and his money grab. I have to believe the only reason he is still a Bear is McCaskeys looking at dollars with no sense. I cant wait to see Matt Pryor tomorrow.

I did also, although it still did raise an eyebrow that it was taking a while to get through. But I gave him the benefit of doubt. Some people you give an arm and they take the whole torso. He seems to be one of those. He will take all he can get away with and more it seems

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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Surprised Teammates Sept 22, 2024 9:58:16 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Sept 22, 2024 9:58:16 GMT -6

Sept 22, 2024 9:10:47 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Sept 21, 2024 23:19:57 GMT -6 billymurray said:

I gave Nate Davis a flyer last season losing his mom and never getting it together with a new team. Season 2 zero excuses, the guy is a bum. I can't ever remember a bigger bum on the Bears O Line than this guy - and his money grab. I have to believe the only reason he is still a Bear is McCaskeys looking at dollars with no sense. I cant wait to see Matt Pryor tomorrow.

I did also, although it still did raise an eyebrow that it was taking a while to get through. But I gave him the benefit of doubt. Some people you give an arm and they take the whole torso. He seems to be one of those. He will take all he can get away with and more it seems

I agree, BIH. What made it frustrating for me was the fact that he was a decent player until he got his contract here. If he was playing at the level he was prior to that contract - we would have a solid RG. I think it is difficult for GMs to measure the mental/emotional part of these players like they can measure the skill sets. Overall, I think Poles and the personnel people here, have done a good job getting guys who have the right stuff attitude and emotional wise. But of course there have been some whiffs on that too.

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Post by The Marshall Plan on Sept 22, 2024 10:03:19 GMT -6

Players need to be held accountable for poor play and poor effort.

It is the HC's job to do that and Eberflus needs to actually do his job.

There is no reason for Davis to see the field again this year, unless he straightens out.

No maybe Flus is getting pressure to play him from Poles because of that contract? IDK.

But Davis cannot be on that field.

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Kiran Amegadjie's Progress Has Surprised Teammates Sept 22, 2024 10:20:25 GMT -6 JABF likes this

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Sept 22, 2024 9:58:16 GMT -6 JABF said:

Sept 22, 2024 9:10:47 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I did also, although it still did raise an eyebrow that it was taking a while to get through. But I gave him the benefit of doubt. Some people you give an arm and they take the whole torso. He seems to be one of those. He will take all he can get away with and more it seems

I agree, BIH. What made it frustrating for me was the fact that he was a decent player until he got his contract here. If he was playing at the level he was prior to that contract - we would have a solid RG. I think it is difficult for GMs to measure the mental/emotional part of these players like they can measure the skill sets. Overall, I think Poles and the personnel people here, have done a good job getting guys who have the right stuff attitude and emotional wise. But of course there have been some whiffs on that too.

This is a tough one. Did he lose the will to play when his mother died? Not sure that happens often, but maybe it did here. Was he always inclined to loaf if he could get away with it? I have no idea. It seems obvious to me that the coaches are not able to get him motivated. Not sure if its the lack of ability on the coaches to deal with a situation like this or just the player himself not wanting to do it and nothing is going to motivate him. Although I have found that in all but extreme circumstances, a person can be motivated. I don't pretend to know, but whatever it is, it is a problem that is not seeming to resolve itself.

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Sept 22, 2024 9:58:16 GMT -6 JABF said:

I agree, BIH. What made it frustrating for me was the fact that he was a decent player until he got his contract here. If he was playing at the level he was prior to that contract - we would have a solid RG. I think it is difficult for GMs to measure the mental/emotional part of these players like they can measure the skill sets. Overall, I think Poles and the personnel people here, have done a good job getting guys who have the right stuff attitude and emotional wise. But of course there have been some whiffs on that too.

This is a tough one. Did he lose the will to play when his mother died? Not sure that happens often, but maybe it did here. Was he always inclined to loaf if he could get away with it? I have no idea. It seems obvious to me that the coaches are not able to get him motivated. Not sure if it the lack of ability on the coaches to seal with a situation like this or just the player himself not wanting to do it and nothing is going to motivate him. Although I have found that in all but extreme circumstances, a person can be motivated. I don't pretend to know, but whatever it is, it is a problem that is not seeming to resolve itself.

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