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10 thoughts on the Bears' 41-21 loss to the Redskins
6. Chatting with Will Montgomery gave me the chance to ask him a little about the injuries the Bears have had as the high number has raised questions about how the team prepares. Strength coach Jason George came with coach John Fox from the Broncos last year.
“I don’t think I have ever heard of (18) guys on IR,” Montgomery said. “That’s kind of ridiculous and that strength staff out there is generally good with all the soft tissue stuff so I am wondering if all of those injuries are broken bones or soft tissue? What are most of those injuries?”
I told Montgomery the Bears have had a bunch of high ankle sprains and that the soft-tissue issues haven’t been as prevalent or at least as high-profile as they were in 2015 when wide receiver Alshon Jeffery missed seven games with a series of calf, hamstring and groin injuries.
“As far as what they do, (George) obviously was in Denver with Luke Richesson, and all of those guys came from Athletes Performance out in Arizona with all of the combine-type stuff,” Montgomery said. “They do put a big emphasis on stretching and foam roller and have a lot of those vibrating things so that group of guys does do more stretching than I would say most teams do. Some teams just kind of do the touch your toes, let’s go stretch, this system of guys does do a lot more stretching than the average team, I believe. If there are this many guys going down on this team, then it’s just kind of a rash of bad luck I would think.”
7. A buzz has been created for the college bowl season that has nothing to do with the action on the field as highly touted running backs Leonard Fournette of LSU and Christian McCaffrey of Stanford have opted to sit out their teams’ respective games with an eye toward the NFL draft. The first player to announce he would forego his team’s bowl game was Oklahoma defensive tackle Charles Walker and Baylor running back Shock Linwood has also announced he will not play.
Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey follow the money just like the NCAA taught them
Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey follow the money just like the NCAA taught them
Big Ten's best bowl bets: Iowa, Penn State and … not Minnesota
Big Ten's best bowl bets: Iowa, Penn State and … not Minnesota
It creates questions for NFL talent evaluators and you wonder what kind of impact this will have on their draft stock a year after Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith suffered a serious knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl that not only damaged his draft status but has kept him sidelined for his entire rookie season.
I asked a general manager and a national scout for different teams how they view this trend? Fournette has played through an ankle injury for much of the season and McCaffrey has played with a hip injury. Walker was sidelined by a concussion and Lockwood’s case is more curious. There are character concerns about him.
“I see it both ways,” the GM said. “And that’s a very difficult decision to make for a high-round pick like Leonard Fournette, who has been playing hurt all year. The kid has fought through and played on a high ankle sprain the entire year and fought and he got to the point where he said, ‘You know what, I am going to protect myself.’ And I think (Christian McCaffrey) has been playing with a hip pointer so both of those kids fought their butts off to play. Look, if a kid is healthy and he’s not going to be a high-round pick, he needs to play. That kid from Baylor who is not playing in the game, that’s ridiculous. That’s because he’s a moron.
“It’s the ultimate team sport and it just makes you wonder when you get to our level and it gets to crunch time late in the season in December where everyone is hurt and they are in the last year of their contract, do they make a business decision? Or do they make a decision for the team? There are definitely going to be some questions about that. Do I think Fournette and McCaffrey would do that? No, I think they’re both good kids. And they both have proven they will play through injuries and they’ve done it all year.”
It’s worth wondering if this eventually reaches the next level where a player, after two years in college, opts to sit out his entire third season to ensure he is healthy before becoming eligible for the draft three years removed from high school.
“It could,” the GM said. “I mean, I wouldn’t advise it because that really shows a sign of selfishness and they need to continue to hone their skills. To me, the only way you get better at anything is by practicing and playing. A kid isn’t going to get better sitting out a season and to me that is a really rare, rare case. Really the only position that might happen is running back. Rushers need to practice. Even (Jadaveon) Clowney when he was coming out, as freaky as he was, he still had a lot of rawness in his game. Look, those are the exceptions. The kids that get hurt are the exceptions. People bring up Jaylon Smith and before that Willis McGahee (bad knee injury in 2002 Fiesta Bowl), but how many kids played in bowl games and not gotten hurt and been with their teammates and been with their teams? We’re talking about a small, small percentage. I see it both ways. If kids like Fournette and McCaffrey who are good workers and good kids and have played through injuries, I am not going to knock them, no.”
The national scout doesn’t believe it’s going to create a lot of discussions when it comes to Fournette and McCaffrey.
“In this selfish world, I think the team is kind of a lost art,” he said. “It doesn’t affect them when they’re evaluated just that they’re always going to be a little selfish, that’s all. How are they a real team guy? Fournette has had a legitimate injury and so has McCaffrey so it’s not going to affect them too much.”
8. Former offensive lineman Ross Tucker, who went from Princeton to the NFL and also has an excellent podcast and called the Packers-Bears game for Westwood One radio and found positives in what has been a lost season for the Bears. Maybe more positives than you would expect. Tucker is a sharp guy and does solid work on many platforms, including on SiruisXM NFL Radio.
One of the things I’ve noticed with Matt Barkley is he isn’t afraid to push the ball downfield and sometimes that is something young and inexperienced quarterbacks shy away from. Have you noticed that?
He definitely has a better arm than I thought he did going back to when he was with the Eagles. I really thought he had a weak arm and it’s not that. He’s got a decent arm. He made some decent throws. Maybe he does drive it down the field a little more but he also threw a couple pretty costly picks in the middle of the field. Then you look who he is doing it with, (Cameron) Meredith and Deonte Thompson and it’s pretty impressive.
You have seen a lot of teams this year. The Bears are 3-12 and they have lost six games by six points or less. Because you have seen more teams this year than I have, how far away are these guys? Are they a long ways away or is it a good draft and free-agent period away from being much more competitive?
I don’t think they are that far away. If you look at sort of the hope meter, there are some teams where Cleveland is going to be a while. San Francisco I might feel the worst about. You look at Chicago with all of the guys they have on IR right now. I am not sure there is a game I can remember seeing more guys playing that I really knew very little about. (John) Timu, I know (Nick) Kwiatkoski because he is from Pennsylvania. But Timu and Kwiatkoski, (Cre’Von) LeBlanc and all of these other guys. Who are these guys? It’s unbelievable. I think (John) Fox does deserve credit for them playing hard and being in all of these games. A play here or there in all of these games and they would have won more of these games. I understand the loser’s lament thing but when you are without a bunch of the guys, both inside linebackers and Kevin White, guys that you are really counting on, those are guys that you expect to make a difference in those close games. Like I said, I give them a lot of credit for how they have played to this point.
How do you quantify it for fans when you talk about guys playing hard? The season has been over for this team for a while. What’s the difference between guys putting forth an effort like John Fox is getting from them and teams you see where it appears like they are going through the motions?
Like the Jets. And I would tell you it really comes down to the individuals and the leaders and the coaching. I have seen guys, I can remember in 2002 several Cowboys players before the last game when they knew (Dave) Campo was going to be fired in favor of (Bill) Parcells, a bunch of those guys skipped curfew before the last game. I can remember other seasons it was clear guys, right or wrong, did not see the big picture and did not understand, ‘Look man, if things are this bad they’re going to make a lot of changes and you’re either going to want to play well enough so you’re one of the guys that stays or you’re going to want to play well enough so you’re one of the guys where if you do go, someone else picks you up.’ That’s how I always looked at it.
Jordan Howard has quietly put together a really nice rookie season. What is your impression of him?
Really impressed. He’s powerful, finishes runs. Good vision. He keeps hammering away. Between he and Leonard Floyd, Ryan Pace picked some dudes. He picked some guys, including (Cody) Whitehair. It was a pretty good draft for Ryan Pace. I think he needed it and he got it.
10 thoughts on the Bears' 41-21 loss to the Redskins
6. Chatting with Will Montgomery gave me the chance to ask him a little about the injuries the Bears have had as the high number has raised questions about how the team prepares. Strength coach Jason George came with coach John Fox from the Broncos last year.
“I don’t think I have ever heard of (18) guys on IR,” Montgomery said. “That’s kind of ridiculous and that strength staff out there is generally good with all the soft tissue stuff so I am wondering if all of those injuries are broken bones or soft tissue? What are most of those injuries?”
I told Montgomery the Bears have had a bunch of high ankle sprains and that the soft-tissue issues haven’t been as prevalent or at least as high-profile as they were in 2015 when wide receiver Alshon Jeffery missed seven games with a series of calf, hamstring and groin injuries.
“As far as what they do, (George) obviously was in Denver with Luke Richesson, and all of those guys came from Athletes Performance out in Arizona with all of the combine-type stuff,” Montgomery said. “They do put a big emphasis on stretching and foam roller and have a lot of those vibrating things so that group of guys does do more stretching than I would say most teams do. Some teams just kind of do the touch your toes, let’s go stretch, this system of guys does do a lot more stretching than the average team, I believe. If there are this many guys going down on this team, then it’s just kind of a rash of bad luck I would think.”
7. A buzz has been created for the college bowl season that has nothing to do with the action on the field as highly touted running backs Leonard Fournette of LSU and Christian McCaffrey of Stanford have opted to sit out their teams’ respective games with an eye toward the NFL draft. The first player to announce he would forego his team’s bowl game was Oklahoma defensive tackle Charles Walker and Baylor running back Shock Linwood has also announced he will not play.
Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey follow the money just like the NCAA taught them
Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey follow the money just like the NCAA taught them
Big Ten's best bowl bets: Iowa, Penn State and … not Minnesota
Big Ten's best bowl bets: Iowa, Penn State and … not Minnesota
It creates questions for NFL talent evaluators and you wonder what kind of impact this will have on their draft stock a year after Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith suffered a serious knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl that not only damaged his draft status but has kept him sidelined for his entire rookie season.
I asked a general manager and a national scout for different teams how they view this trend? Fournette has played through an ankle injury for much of the season and McCaffrey has played with a hip injury. Walker was sidelined by a concussion and Lockwood’s case is more curious. There are character concerns about him.
“I see it both ways,” the GM said. “And that’s a very difficult decision to make for a high-round pick like Leonard Fournette, who has been playing hurt all year. The kid has fought through and played on a high ankle sprain the entire year and fought and he got to the point where he said, ‘You know what, I am going to protect myself.’ And I think (Christian McCaffrey) has been playing with a hip pointer so both of those kids fought their butts off to play. Look, if a kid is healthy and he’s not going to be a high-round pick, he needs to play. That kid from Baylor who is not playing in the game, that’s ridiculous. That’s because he’s a moron.
“It’s the ultimate team sport and it just makes you wonder when you get to our level and it gets to crunch time late in the season in December where everyone is hurt and they are in the last year of their contract, do they make a business decision? Or do they make a decision for the team? There are definitely going to be some questions about that. Do I think Fournette and McCaffrey would do that? No, I think they’re both good kids. And they both have proven they will play through injuries and they’ve done it all year.”
It’s worth wondering if this eventually reaches the next level where a player, after two years in college, opts to sit out his entire third season to ensure he is healthy before becoming eligible for the draft three years removed from high school.
“It could,” the GM said. “I mean, I wouldn’t advise it because that really shows a sign of selfishness and they need to continue to hone their skills. To me, the only way you get better at anything is by practicing and playing. A kid isn’t going to get better sitting out a season and to me that is a really rare, rare case. Really the only position that might happen is running back. Rushers need to practice. Even (Jadaveon) Clowney when he was coming out, as freaky as he was, he still had a lot of rawness in his game. Look, those are the exceptions. The kids that get hurt are the exceptions. People bring up Jaylon Smith and before that Willis McGahee (bad knee injury in 2002 Fiesta Bowl), but how many kids played in bowl games and not gotten hurt and been with their teammates and been with their teams? We’re talking about a small, small percentage. I see it both ways. If kids like Fournette and McCaffrey who are good workers and good kids and have played through injuries, I am not going to knock them, no.”
The national scout doesn’t believe it’s going to create a lot of discussions when it comes to Fournette and McCaffrey.
“In this selfish world, I think the team is kind of a lost art,” he said. “It doesn’t affect them when they’re evaluated just that they’re always going to be a little selfish, that’s all. How are they a real team guy? Fournette has had a legitimate injury and so has McCaffrey so it’s not going to affect them too much.”
8. Former offensive lineman Ross Tucker, who went from Princeton to the NFL and also has an excellent podcast and called the Packers-Bears game for Westwood One radio and found positives in what has been a lost season for the Bears. Maybe more positives than you would expect. Tucker is a sharp guy and does solid work on many platforms, including on SiruisXM NFL Radio.
One of the things I’ve noticed with Matt Barkley is he isn’t afraid to push the ball downfield and sometimes that is something young and inexperienced quarterbacks shy away from. Have you noticed that?
He definitely has a better arm than I thought he did going back to when he was with the Eagles. I really thought he had a weak arm and it’s not that. He’s got a decent arm. He made some decent throws. Maybe he does drive it down the field a little more but he also threw a couple pretty costly picks in the middle of the field. Then you look who he is doing it with, (Cameron) Meredith and Deonte Thompson and it’s pretty impressive.
You have seen a lot of teams this year. The Bears are 3-12 and they have lost six games by six points or less. Because you have seen more teams this year than I have, how far away are these guys? Are they a long ways away or is it a good draft and free-agent period away from being much more competitive?
I don’t think they are that far away. If you look at sort of the hope meter, there are some teams where Cleveland is going to be a while. San Francisco I might feel the worst about. You look at Chicago with all of the guys they have on IR right now. I am not sure there is a game I can remember seeing more guys playing that I really knew very little about. (John) Timu, I know (Nick) Kwiatkoski because he is from Pennsylvania. But Timu and Kwiatkoski, (Cre’Von) LeBlanc and all of these other guys. Who are these guys? It’s unbelievable. I think (John) Fox does deserve credit for them playing hard and being in all of these games. A play here or there in all of these games and they would have won more of these games. I understand the loser’s lament thing but when you are without a bunch of the guys, both inside linebackers and Kevin White, guys that you are really counting on, those are guys that you expect to make a difference in those close games. Like I said, I give them a lot of credit for how they have played to this point.
How do you quantify it for fans when you talk about guys playing hard? The season has been over for this team for a while. What’s the difference between guys putting forth an effort like John Fox is getting from them and teams you see where it appears like they are going through the motions?
Like the Jets. And I would tell you it really comes down to the individuals and the leaders and the coaching. I have seen guys, I can remember in 2002 several Cowboys players before the last game when they knew (Dave) Campo was going to be fired in favor of (Bill) Parcells, a bunch of those guys skipped curfew before the last game. I can remember other seasons it was clear guys, right or wrong, did not see the big picture and did not understand, ‘Look man, if things are this bad they’re going to make a lot of changes and you’re either going to want to play well enough so you’re one of the guys that stays or you’re going to want to play well enough so you’re one of the guys where if you do go, someone else picks you up.’ That’s how I always looked at it.
Jordan Howard has quietly put together a really nice rookie season. What is your impression of him?
Really impressed. He’s powerful, finishes runs. Good vision. He keeps hammering away. Between he and Leonard Floyd, Ryan Pace picked some dudes. He picked some guys, including (Cody) Whitehair. It was a pretty good draft for Ryan Pace. I think he needed it and he got it.