PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -6

Post by paytonisgod on Sept 10, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:13:12 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Sept 10, 2024 13:57:58 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

If anyone actually read the article you would see that the headline is highly misleading. Shelton had a pass blocking of 48.6. That's awful.

"In fact, Davis had a 73.7 overall grade, which is considered good. It was second on the line only to Ryan Bates, who replaced him and had the team's highest offensive line grade of 78.7. He also came off the bench to get twice as many reps as Davis had. Both stood out as pass blockers, with Davis recording a 73.0 there to Bates a 70.8 pass-blocking grade."

"Even Shelton's grade wasn't terrible, at 64.5, although he did bring in a poor 48.9 as a pass blocker."

"The worst blocking day on the line belonged to Braxton Jones, but even that wasn't terrible at 62.8. It included a 75.9 as a pass blocker."
"Darnell Wright had 72.7 and Teven Jenkins 68.4."

It's believed Davis was benched for his play and loafing. Shelton was terrible. Not 1 player on the OL deserved a "good grade" at any aspect. Rushing was 3.8 ypc. The entire OL was weak, flaccid and pathetic.

"Overall grade" - If you have a couple of bad plays but several good plays they can average out differently. Also Shelton's grade is bad regardless of how the article frames it.

Davis appears to have been benched for a couple of bad plays. If he was otherwise doing his job his overall score isn't going to be as bad. He also wasn't in the game that long. So the sample size is small.

Anything below a 70 for PFF is not good. So according to PFF the only OL who had a good day was Wright and that was just barely.

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:33:58 GMT -6 shark86 likes this

Post by bearsinhouston on Sept 10, 2024 14:33:58 GMT -6

I thought he (davis) went to the bench because he had hit his predetermined number of plays in the game, not because of his performance. That is not to say his performance may not have merited it, I'm just saying I didn't think that is why he was sent to the bench

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:46:34 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Sept 10, 2024 14:46:34 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

Sept 10, 2024 14:13:12 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

"In fact, Davis had a 73.7 overall grade, which is considered good. It was second on the line only to Ryan Bates, who replaced him and had the team's highest offensive line grade of 78.7. He also came off the bench to get twice as many reps as Davis had. Both stood out as pass blockers, with Davis recording a 73.0 there to Bates a 70.8 pass-blocking grade."

"Even Shelton's grade wasn't terrible, at 64.5, although he did bring in a poor 48.9 as a pass blocker."

"The worst blocking day on the line belonged to Braxton Jones, but even that wasn't terrible at 62.8. It included a 75.9 as a pass blocker."
"Darnell Wright had 72.7 and Teven Jenkins 68.4."

It's believed Davis was benched for his play and loafing. Shelton was terrible. Not 1 player on the OL deserved a "good grade" at any aspect. Rushing was 3.8 ypc. The entire OL was weak, flaccid and pathetic.

"Overall grade" - If you have a couple of bad plays but several good plays they can average out differently. Also Shelton's grade is bad regardless of how the article frames it.

Davis appears to have been benched for a couple of bad plays. If he was otherwise doing his job his overall score isn't going to be as bad. He also wasn't in the game that long. So the sample size is small.

Anything below a 70 for PFF is not good. So according to PFF the only OL who had a good day was Wright and that was just barely.

This is where we won't agree, there wasn't enough good plays to neutralize the overabundance of bad ones. Barely below good is way to good for how any of them played.

Davis was getting bulldozed not just a few times and took plays off. Sheldon got decleated, literally off his feet multiple times, Jenkins only positive was a fumble recovery. Wright and Jones multiple times just got bum rushed collapsing the pocket. It was a terrible day for the entire group. Anything short of near failing was an extremely kind grade; and I'm not at all surprised that PFF claimed it wasn't as bad as it looked; b/c on further review it was every bit as bad as it looked, and in some cases worse.

Tenn looked at the Bears OL group and said we are going to have all pro days against his PoS lineup; and they did. The rest of the league is going to mimmick what Tenn did, just bum rush whatever 5 they put out there, and confuse the IOL after they've been flustered.

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:52:38 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Sept 10, 2024 14:52:38 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:10:01 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Well then, that takes care of that. We're good.

Phewwww... no worries then. We can all step down. BIH, you can put away the rubber chicken now too (I'd definitely keep it handy though, just in case).

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:53:09 GMT -6 riczaj01 and JABF like this

Post by shark86 on Sept 10, 2024 14:53:09 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:33:58 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I thought he (davis) went to the bench because he had hit his predetermined number of plays in the game, not because of his performance. That is not to say his performance may not have merited it, I'm just saying I didn't think that is why he was sent to the bench

That is what Flus said in the presser, I believe, that Davis was limited to a set number of plays. Regardless, I still say Pffffft^{^3} to PFF.

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

Post by shark86 on Sept 10, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:52:38 GMT -6 JABF said:

Sept 10, 2024 14:10:01 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Well then, that takes care of that. We're good.

Phewwww... no worries then. We can all step down. BIH, you can put away the rubber chicken now too (I'd definitely keep it handy though, just in case).

Svengoolie called, he wants his rubber chickens back before Saturday's movie.

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:54:55 GMT -6 JABF likes this

Post by bearsinhouston on Sept 10, 2024 14:54:55 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:52:38 GMT -6 JABF said:

Sept 10, 2024 14:10:01 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Well then, that takes care of that. We're good.

Phewwww... no worries then. We can all step down. BIH, you can put away the rubber chicken now too (I'd definitely keep it handy though, just in case).

Are you kidding me? I sleep with the thing.

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 14:55:18 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Sept 10, 2024 14:55:18 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 14:33:58 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I thought he (davis) went to the bench because he had hit his predetermined number of plays in the game, not because of his performance. That is not to say his performance may not have merited it, I'm just saying I didn't think that is why he was sent to the bench

That is exactly what Eberflus said. He was on a limited snap count coming back from his injury. The only reason he was pulled was the fact that he hit that snap count limit.

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 17:03:02 GMT -6 JABF likes this

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Sept 10, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -6 shark86 said:

Sept 10, 2024 14:52:38 GMT -6 JABF said:

Phewwww... no worries then. We can all step down. BIH, you can put away the rubber chicken now too (I'd definitely keep it handy though, just in case).

Svengoolie called, he wants his rubber chickens back before Saturday's movie.

someone stepping into the wayway back time machine. Probably thought about him while reminiscing about the last time the Bears had a good OL

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PFF thinks our OL had a great day, especially Shelton at C Sept 10, 2024 17:07:44 GMT -6 riczaj01 and JABF like this

Post by shark86 on Sept 10, 2024 17:07:44 GMT -6

Sept 10, 2024 17:03:02 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Sept 10, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -6 shark86 said:

Svengoolie called, he wants his rubber chickens back before Saturday's movie.

someone stepping into the wayway back time machine. Probably thought about him while reminiscing about the last time the Bears had a good OL

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Post by paytonisgod on Sept 10, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -6

Post by bearsinhouston on Sept 10, 2024 14:33:58 GMT -6

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Post by JABF on Sept 10, 2024 14:52:38 GMT -6

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