+1 They have to play him this season. In the last 3 games he's had some improvement. If Fields can show he is ascending, then even if the Bears trade him after the season ends, his value is higher - certainly higher than a guy who got benched before the first half of the season. And who knows, maybe he ascends high enough that the Bears decide to keep him. I'm not saying that will happen but the Bears need to make sure they see if he can continue to improve.
Honestly if Bagent gets 2 more wins assuming Fields is out 2 weeks, IDT Eberflus/Getsy will put him in. They are coaching for their jobs, and why go to him if Bagent goes 3-0 as a starter? Chargers, Saints, Panthers all winnable.
I am a HUGE fan of Bagent. And I sure don't claim to know his ceiling. I love the fact that his floor sure looks to be at a solid backup level. Having a solid QB2 is a major asset to any NFL team. But I think Bears fans probably need to temper the Bagent hype train a bit. It's great to be excited (I am). But he is probably a career backup in the NFL. Fields may still be a starter quality QB - whether that is with the Bears or another team. The Bears need to know exactly, and definitively what they have in him before the end of this season. That means he needs to play as many games as possible this season. And I get it. Bears fans (some) are convinced "they" know more than the Bears as far as Justin Fields is concerned. But we need to remember that even if Fields is traded after the season ends, it is in the Bears best interest to have Fields put together more solid games like he did in a couple of these most recent games - where he looked much better. That improves his value to other teams if they see that. The Bears then get more in return for Fields being traded. And if I am coaching for my job, I'm not risking my job with ANY rookie, and much less with a kid from a Division-II school. Again, I get the excitement and Bagent hype, but we probably will see him looking more like the rookie he is, in this next game or two. Teams will have film on him and not allow him to do the things he did in the LV Raiders game.
Hey, maybe I'm wrong, but that's my 2-cents worth on Bagent. I am hoping for the best but trying to not have unrealistic expectations for him this season. LOL, and the same fans who are on the Bagent train will be the same fans screaming to cut him when he craps the bed - as all rookies seem to do at times. Heck, we already have (some) "fans" talking like Wright is a bust. LOL. Meatball stuff.
While I would absolutely love to see Bagent be the next Tom Brady, he could just as easily be JABQBIALLOQB*. All we can do is wait and see, and hope. We're Bears fans, that's all we have.
*1 point to anyone who can figure that out! (It shouldn't be too hard for a real Bears fan)
I hope Davis and Brax get back soon. It would be really helpful going into the offseason to get ~ 8 games of evaluation time for the OL as it was intended to start the season. Unit has been killed by injuries. I's like to know just what we have or don't have in those two positions.
Honestly if Bagent gets 2 more wins assuming Fields is out 2 weeks, IDT Eberflus/Getsy will put him in. They are coaching for their jobs, and why go to him if Bagent goes 3-0 as a starter? Chargers, Saints, Panthers all winnable.
But we need to remember that even if Fields is traded after the season ends, it is in the Bears best interest to have Fields put together more solid games like he did in a couple of these most recent games - where he looked much better. That improves his value to other teams if they see that.
It's taken Fields 3 years to have two great games. Do you really think he'll do it again? Honestly I don't anymore. If Bagent continues to win, you don't bench him for Fields to hope he can up his trade value, when in reality he might decline it even more if he continues to play as he has.
While I would absolutely love to see Bagent be the next Tom Brady, he could just as easily be JABQBIALLOQB*. All we can do is wait and see, and hope. We're Bears fans, that's all we have.
*1 point to anyone who can figure that out! (It shouldn't be too hard for a real Bears fan)
While I would absolutely love to see Bagent be the next Tom Brady, he could just as easily be JABQBIALLOQB*. All we can do is wait and see, and hope. We're Bears fans, that's all we have.
*1 point to anyone who can figure that out! (It shouldn't be too hard for a real Bears fan)
Just A Bad QB In A Long Line Of QBs?
Perfect! Except I was thinking Just Another Bears QB but Just A Bad QB works too!
Great minds - especially ones full of rocks - think alike!
But we need to remember that even if Fields is traded after the season ends, it is in the Bears best interest to have Fields put together more solid games like he did in a couple of these most recent games - where he looked much better. That improves his value to other teams if they see that.
It's taken Fields 3 years to have two great games. Do you really think he'll do it again? Honestly I don't anymore. If Bagent continues to win, you don't bench him for Fields to hope he can up his trade value, when in reality he might decline it even more if he continues to play as he has.
You may be right. And I'm not saying Fields will or won't turn it around. But the Bears better be sure about the player before they move on from him. The organization invested heavily in bringing him here. Could you imagine the backlash if the Bears let Fields go at the end of the season - and he ends up being a legit talent at QB1 for another team? That would be pure "Bears like" to have that happen. I don't think anyone disputes the fact that Fields' tenure here was poorly handled beginning with Nagy. I'm not putting that out there to make excuses, but more to point out that it is a bit cloudy as far as what we have in him, and what his NFL ceiling is. This season isn't like some super bowl season. It's going nowhere. So why wouldn't you play Fields and have conclusive evidence of what he is - and isn't - and maybe even get a better return on your investment trading him when the season ends (if he does show some talent like we saw in those two recent games)? To me that just makes good business sense.
And to be honest, as much as I was happy with how that game went with Bagent, I realize he didn't "win" anything. If ever there was a team win, that game was one of them. Bagent basically "didn't screw up" and that's great... that's what the team needs when a backup is trotted out there. Just don't screw it all up and let the defense and the run game carry the day. Do some dink and dunk passes... just enough to keep the game going. Don't throw ints like Bagent did in his first game as a reliever.
I 100% admit that I may be all wrong on this. It's nothing more than one fan's 2-cents worth. Not worth much - I admit :-)
Post by weneedmorelinemen on Oct 24, 2023 17:02:39 GMT -6
For what it's worth, I no longer say Bagent's name in football conversation without an exaggerated Chicago accent. Also, Tyson's name is now pluralized and he is referenced with the greatest receiver of his time, Alshon Jeffries.
