Timeline to being a playoff team with a new coaching staff?

Not including anyone on a rookie deal, Moore, Edmunds and Edwards JJohnson and then it's all replacement lvl talent.

Could say the same about our OL and WRs other then Moore as the DL, maybe Jones and wright turn into something, maybe if Jenkins didn't spend time on IR every year the OL looks different and someone else wants a few guys from it. But this team is just of, how do the kids put it, meh.

Williams isn't coming to Chicago, he'll stay where he is at USC or force a trade. Dude isn't willing to play for a trash Org, and Chicago apparently was used as an example; and I don't blame him. They draft then ignore qb's constantly, as if a qb can do it all on their own from year 1. 

David, Butkus understands the team needs more/better talent.  Two things can both be true at the same time.  Yes, we need to do well drafting and FA in 2024 (and 2025 for that matter).  Butkus isn't saying we are finished with the rebuild in 2023.  But the coaches don't seem to have done much with the talent they already have - I think that part is true too.  

1.  We need better talent.
2.  We need better coaches.

Most folks agree that it takes 3 years to truly evaluate a draft class.  Poles is just entering his 2nd season.  And some of these young/new players will hopefully ascend and be good.  They sure are not "there" yet.  With the failed coaching staff that we now have, it's going to be tough for any player to reach their ceiling here though... but maybe some will.  My hope is that two things happen at the end of this season.


1.  We add more talent.
2.  We add coaches who can coach - coaches who can develop the talent given to them.  We don't have this now.  In fact, I worry that more harm is being done now to these players than help/development.

Yes, but that’s not how he phrases it. He says Poles job is to add more talent to the team in 2023 than he had in 2022.  He accomplished that. He did his job. End of story.  Period. Nothing more to see. 

I said that simply adding some talent — which is virtually impossible NOT to do with a decimated roster and $100M + #1 pick in hand — does not absolve Poles from his substantial responsibility in creating this mess. Butkus hasn’t admitted this yet.  Instead, his position is that Poles has provided the talent but the coaches have failed. I agree the coaches have failed, but so has Poles. 

I noted on the Seahawks board last night that the Lions were 3-13-1 in 2021, which was WORSE record than the Bears. Now they are King of the North. It is sickening to think about where Poles/Eberflus has taken the Bears during the same two-year period.

If you guys are honest, you will admit that that the Lions, Jags, and Seahawks have added more talent to their rosters in 2022-23 than has Poles.  They all started with crappy rosters, too, but have moved up into playoff contention, while the Bears have moved to the bottom.