It's a fair point in that you don't truly know something's objective value until it is "marked to market". The difference with the NFL draft is that each of the "buyers" only get to "buy" one at a time in a defined order and each of them have a different set of priorities. A bungalow and a colonial can both be lived in no matter which style you prefer but a Tackle can't play cornerback and vice versa.
I was surprised as anyone that Jenkins fell into the 2nd round (as I am sure you were that Mond fell into the 3rd). We saw in the 1st that teams snapped up receivers and corners like crazy so maybe that's why there were only 2 pure OTs taken on day 1 when last year there were 5.
Regardless, the #39 pick ended up being the start of a major run on OTs so Pace timed that right if he wanted the pick of the litter. Without a trade-up, Bears would have ended up with Radunz. Assess that however you will. He's a solid prospect but from a much lesser program and conference who faced far lower college competition. Might not be a 1st year starter and Bears really needed one.
That the Bears two biggest needs by far coming into this draft were QB and OT was the worst kept secret in the NFL. It was obvious at a casual glance.
[Which proves again what I've said here many times--"BPA" is largely a bullshit concept. Unless you have a completely stacked roster, every team heavily considers positional needs early in the draft.] ----------- Don't forget the third round pick we lost on this deal. We could have gotten Randunz in second and my guy Meinerz in third. That sets up the whole left side of the line. Move Leno to RT. Ifedi and Whitehair RG. In my estimation, Jenkins is going to have to be All-Pro to come out better than that. Possible, but I remain skeptical until I see him on the field. They say he has problems with speed rushers getting around him.
Mond might be the next QB for the Vikings in 2022.
Post by weneedmorelinemen on May 1, 2021 7:45:31 GMT -6
I know I joke about arm length all the time. But Jenkins is really the guy I hoped to pick up this year in the draft in the first round. Pace really is having a good draft this year so far. This is his last shot, and I understand that he's being aggressive.
Rather have Kyle Fuller on the roster instead of the Heat Miser, but what can you do but watch. I guess he needed an insurance policy on top of his Foles insurance policy.
I know I joke about arm length all the time. But Jenkins is really the guy I hoped to pick up this year in the draft in the first round. Pace really is having a good draft this year so far. This is his last shot, and I understand that he's being aggressive.
Rather have Kyle Fuller on the roster instead of the Heat Miser, but what can you do but watch. I guess he needed an insurance policy on top of his Foles insurance policy.
Fuller over Dalton/Foles would be ideal, for this season at least
LINK Tough, nasty … and now angry: New Bears tackle Teven Jenkins motivated to ‘show everybody (he) was a Day 1 talent’
The Bears drafted a badass on Day 2 of the NFL Draft.
As in this guy: “I don’t care who you are lining up against me, I don’t care what you earn against me, I don’t care who you are, I’m going to attack you.”
Welcome to the Chicago Bears, Teven Jenkins.
You might not know this, but the Bears needed you. They desperately wanted the aggression and attitude that you’re going to provide their offensive line. So go bury the Packers if you want this season. The Bears will gleefully provide the shovel.
“My edge to me is about being able to finish anybody in the dirt,” Jenkins said Friday over Zoom. “Basically, I want to impose my will against another man and use that force against him until he gets worn out and tired. And I don’t care how long it takes. I’m going to do that 24/7, and I’m going to do that all game.”
It's a fair point in that you don't truly know something's objective value until it is "marked to market". The difference with the NFL draft is that each of the "buyers" only get to "buy" one at a time in a defined order and each of them have a different set of priorities. A bungalow and a colonial can both be lived in no matter which style you prefer but a Tackle can't play cornerback and vice versa.
I was surprised as anyone that Jenkins fell into the 2nd round (as I am sure you were that Mond fell into the 3rd). We saw in the 1st that teams snapped up receivers and corners like crazy so maybe that's why there were only 2 pure OTs taken on day 1 when last year there were 5.
Regardless, the #39 pick ended up being the start of a major run on OTs so Pace timed that right if he wanted the pick of the litter. Without a trade-up, Bears would have ended up with Radunz. Assess that however you will. He's a solid prospect but from a much lesser program and conference who faced far lower college competition. Might not be a 1st year starter and Bears really needed one.
That the Bears two biggest needs by far coming into this draft were QB and OT was the worst kept secret in the NFL. It was obvious at a casual glance.
[Which proves again what I've said here many times--"BPA" is largely a bullshit concept. Unless you have a completely stacked roster, every team heavily considers positional needs early in the draft.] ----------- Don't forget the third round pick we lost on this deal. We could have gotten Randunz in second and my guy Meinerz in third. That sets up the whole left side of the line. Move Leno to RT. Ifedi and Whitehair RG. In my estimation, Jenkins is going to have to be All-Pro to come out better than that. Possible, but I remain skeptical until I see him on the field. They say he has problems with speed rushers getting around him.
Mond might be the next QB for the Vikings in 2022.
David, Leno was tried at RT years ago and was awful. He's a rare player who is a way better LT than RT.
Meinerz looks like a promising prospect I agree but he's from a tiny Div 3 school--expect his adjustment to the NFL to be a substantial one. Even if ultimately successful, I predict he doesn't start year 1 which is exactly what his draft position (end of round 3) tells you as well.
Radunz is another good prospect also from a small program--we will see how quickly he's ready to face NFL competition. There was no way to know in advance whether or not he would make it to #52. In fact, there was a huge run of OTs from #39 to #52 and he was THE LAST of the "Tier 2" players taken, barely making it to the Bears original slot. By moving up, Pace got the pick of the litter and a player almost universally regarded as a clear-cut 1st round talent. No one, repeat NO ONE, called Radunz a 1st round talent.
I understand your thinking and here and I share it to some degree. I wanted that 3rd round pick too. The way I look at it is this:
Pace came into this draft with 2 huge, glaring needs, both positions the Chicago Bears have frankly neglected, ignored, and massively screwed up at for a long, long time. He made damn sure to get the two very best players he could realistically get at those two positions, come hell or high water. You may not like the trades but you can't deny the quality. He got the BEST QB and BEST OT the Bears possibly could have come away from this draft. He nailed those 2 spots.