A good player, but we may have paid a little too much. Could have taken Radunz (left tackle) and kept the third round pick.
could have, but the value of a top 5 prospect and a top 20 prospect(what Fields and Jenkins were) are worth approx 2500 pts in draft value, what the Bears have given up so far is only worth about 2k in draft value, and both were positive on their own.
A good player, but we may have paid a little too much. Could have taken Radunz (left tackle) and kept the third round pick.
could have, but the value of a top 5 prospect and a top 20 prospect(what Fields and Jenkins were) are worth approx 2500 pts in draft value, what the Bears have given up so far is only worth about 2k in draft value, and both were positive on their own. ——- The problem with that math is that the top 5 guy actually went 11th and the top 20 guy actually went 39th.
For me, this trade will come down to how well Jenkins performs on the field. Until then, I am skeptical about the cost.
could have, but the value of a top 5 prospect and a top 20 prospect(what Fields and Jenkins were) are worth approx 2500 pts in draft value, what the Bears have given up so far is only worth about 2k in draft value, and both were positive on their own. ——- The problem with that math is that the top 5 guy actually went 11th and the top 20 guy actually went 39th.
For me, this trade will come down to how well Jenkins performs on the field. Until then, I am skeptical about the cost.
not talking about where they went, i'm talking about their value as a prospect. And they were rated as a top 5 and top 20. That was their value; they fell which allowed the Bears to trade up and get them for less then their actual value. That is how you trade up and win.
not talking about where they went, i'm talking about their value as a prospect. And they were rated as a top 5 and top 20. That was their value; they fell which allowed the Bears to trade up and get them for less then their actual value. That is how you trade up and win. ———— The pre-draft predictions of 5 and 20 were not born out by the behaviors of the GMs on draft day. I can “value” my house at $500k, but if nobody will pay me $500k for it when l put it on the market, the value is in my head but not supported by the actions of the buyers. Same goes for the draft,
I will have a better idea of Jenkins true value when we see how well he performs on the field, and that will tell us more about how good this trade was. That was my point.
not talking about where they went, i'm talking about their value as a prospect. And they were rated as a top 5 and top 20. That was their value; they fell which allowed the Bears to trade up and get them for less then their actual value. That is how you trade up and win. ———— The pre-draft predictions of 5 and 20 were not born out by the behaviors of the GMs on draft day. I can “value” my house at $500k, but if nobody will pay me $500k for it when l put it on the market, the value is in my head but not supported by the actions of the buyers. Same goes for the draft,
I will have a better idea of Jenkins true value when we see how well he performs on the field, and that will tell us more about how good this trade was. That was my point.
But their prospect value is why the Bears traded up and got them. if they were valued at 11 and 39 they likely don't trade as much to get them. You cannot look at it only 1 way.
Their prospect value is why it was seen as them falling, and a good move to go and get them. If they weren't valued at top 5 and 20, they aren't seen as falling and the Bears don't move up and get them; or have to pay as much as they did to move up.
It was their perceived value that created the entire situation.
not talking about where they went, i'm talking about their value as a prospect. And they were rated as a top 5 and top 20. That was their value; they fell which allowed the Bears to trade up and get them for less then their actual value. That is how you trade up and win. ———— The pre-draft predictions of 5 and 20 were not born out by the behaviors of the GMs on draft day. I can “value” my house at $500k, but if nobody will pay me $500k for it when l put it on the market, the value is in my head but not supported by the actions of the buyers. Same goes for the draft,
I will have a better idea of Jenkins true value when we see how well he performs on the field, and that will tell us more about how good this trade was. That was my point.
It's a fair point in that you don't truly know something's objective value until it is "marked to market". The difference with the NFL draft is that each of the "buyers" only get to "buy" one at a time in a defined order and each of them have a different set of priorities. A bungalow and a colonial can both be lived in no matter which style you prefer but a Tackle can't play cornerback and vice versa.
I was surprised as anyone that Jenkins fell into the 2nd round (as I am sure you were that Mond fell into the 3rd). We saw in the 1st that teams snapped up receivers and corners like crazy so maybe that's why there were only 2 pure OTs taken on day 1 when last year there were 5.
Regardless, the #39 pick ended up being the start of a major run on OTs so Pace timed that right if he wanted the pick of the litter. Without a trade-up, Bears would have ended up with Radunz. Assess that however you will. He's a solid prospect but from a much lesser program and conference who faced far lower college competition. Might not be a 1st year starter and Bears really needed one.
That the Bears two biggest needs by far coming into this draft were QB and OT was the worst kept secret in the NFL. It was obvious at a casual glance.
[Which proves again what I've said here many times--"BPA" is largely a bullshit concept. Unless you have a completely stacked roster, every team heavily considers positional needs early in the draft.]