Not sure if he really had to move up (cost both 6ths) to get him, but I like the pick. At least it makes sense.
I do wonder what opportunities Pace has to trade down and acquire more picks. Even if they are late rounds picks they are still draft capital that can be used for further trading. I like what the Vikings FO has been doing in acquiring picks. It's always a gamble to try to see if your guy may still be available. I think trading up is best for teams that feel strongly about their Superbowl chances (& yet Patriots seem to have traded down quite a bit). I wonder if Pace feels his seat is warming up?
Not sure if he really had to move up (cost both 6ths) to get him, but I like the pick. At least it makes sense.
I do wonder what opportunities Pace has to trade down and acquire more picks. Even if they are late rounds picks they are still draft capital that can be used for further trading. I like what the Vikings FO has been doing in acquiring picks. It's always a gamble to try to see if your guy may still be available. I think trading up is best for teams that feel strongly about their Superbowl chances (& yet Patriots seem to have traded down quite a bit). I wonder if Pace feels his seat is warming up?
Hope he is. If not - hes an idiot. So, I hope he is.
Post by brasilbear on Apr 26, 2020 11:56:14 GMT -6
I look at it like this:
Getting a guy they like in the fifth even trading up is worth two six round picks that have less of a chance combined of making the roster than the 5th rounder.
How true is this? Honestly don't know. Just my opinion.
On the other hand, which I also see, is that the 6+6 gives you two shots to find a diamond in the rough. And even though you can't count on finding that guy, they are out there.
It's all a roll of the dice. Depends how to want to slant the odd. I prefer the slightly (and I mean slightly) better odds of the 5th rounder making it than the sixths. BUT like I said before there is an argument made for taking two whacks at the prize.
Not sure if he really had to move up (cost both 6ths) to get him, but I like the pick. At least it makes sense.
I do wonder what opportunities Pace has to trade down and acquire more picks. Even if they are late rounds picks they are still draft capital that can be used for further trading. I like what the Vikings FO has been doing in acquiring picks. It's always a gamble to try to see if your guy may still be available. I think trading up is best for teams that feel strongly about their Superbowl chances (& yet Patriots seem to have traded down quite a bit). I wonder if Pace feels his seat is warming up?
LOL, Yeah I think so.
Pace isn't dumb. He knows that a bad season (I'll define that here as 6 wins or less) in 2020 likely means he and Nagy are gone in January. It wasn't unnoticed that he didn't get cute for a change this draft. He didn't spend draft capital like a drunken sailor, he didn't trade up early in the draft because he just had to have "his guy", and he didn't spend high picks on athletic-projects or small-school heros.
As far as stockpiling picks goes, at least Pace is starting to play the comp pick game well. Next year, as of now we will be w/o a 4th but should have 2-3 extra 6ths based on the projections I have seen.
Getting a guy they like in the fifth even trading up is worth two six round picks that have less of a chance combined of making the roster than the 5th rounder.
How true is this? Honestly don't know. Just my opinion.
On the other hand, which I also see, is that the 6+6 gives you two shots to find a diamond in the rough. And even though you can't count on finding that guy, they are out there.
It's all a roll of the dice. Depends how to want to slant the odd. I prefer the slightly (and I mean slightly) better odds of the 5th rounder making it than the sixths. BUT like I said before there is an argument made for taking two whacks at the prize.
Really going out in a limb here I know.
Hate to get nit-picky here, but yeah probably could have gotten Mooney + Quez Watkins (he went exactly the pick we traded-#200) in the 6th as you mentioned. That gives you 2 shots to find your speed threat. Winner of camp competition makes the team; loser spends a year on the PS.
When Pace moved up in the 5th for a WR, Watkins was the guy I thought he was going for.
Not sure if he really had to move up (cost both 6ths) to get him, but I like the pick. At least it makes sense.
I do wonder what opportunities Pace has to trade down and acquire more picks. Even if they are late rounds picks they are still draft capital that can be used for further trading. I like what the Vikings FO has been doing in acquiring picks. It's always a gamble to try to see if your guy may still be available. I think trading up is best for teams that feel strongly about their Superbowl chances (& yet Patriots seem to have traded down quite a bit). I wonder if Pace feels his seat is warming up?
Listening to some people talk on radio/pod casts, it's not as warm as seat for the GM/HC as fans want it to be. They are likely hear at least 1 more year either way. The talent lvl on the team is well ahead of where it was when Pace took over. I would think barring a complete melt down and as these 2 were talking, 8-8 isn't a meltdown as the people talking were pointing out.
Getting a guy they like in the fifth even trading up is worth two six round picks that have less of a chance combined of making the roster than the 5th rounder.
How true is this? Honestly don't know. Just my opinion.
On the other hand, which I also see, is that the 6+6 gives you two shots to find a diamond in the rough. And even though you can't count on finding that guy, they are out there.
It's all a roll of the dice. Depends how to want to slant the odd. I prefer the slightly (and I mean slightly) better odds of the 5th rounder making it than the sixths. BUT like I said before there is an argument made for taking two whacks at the prize.
Really going out in a limb here I know.
Hate to get nit-picky here, but yeah probably could have gotten Mooney + Quez Watkins (he went exactly the pick we traded-#200) in the 6th as you mentioned. That gives you 2 shots to find your speed threat. Winner of camp competition makes the team; loser spends a year on the PS.
When Pace moved up in the 5th for a WR, Watkins was the guy I thought he was going for.
yep agree 100%. And like i said I don't know the correct thing here. Generally in the later rounds trading down trading up....meh all these guys are long shots after all. I just dont know. I do know that the guys who are 100% certain either way are blowing smoke.
I like the speedster pick, I'm always in favor of a day three speed WR/RB.