funny what has Carr shown? Again playoff wins/sb runs. Only Foles has that.
Why is Rivers/Newton in tier 2, and Foles isn't? Cannot really disagree w/Tier 4 to much.
SB wins, even just playoff wins, is a pretty poor measure of a QB. Especially a QB under age 30.
You seem to think a QB belongs in a certain "tier" because he has won a SB or a certain number of playoff games. Can't believe anyone could think Foles belongs in the same rank as Rivers in a career-to-career comparison.
Like Rivers, there's been quite a few real good QBs who've never won a SB. And there's been a few meh QBs who got really hot at just the right time and did....but otherwise haven't been good over the years (Foles, Flacco).
As far as Carr goes, I don't think he's ever even played in a playoff game. One year I can recall the Raiders made a wildcard but Carr had been hurt just the week before and was out. Carr has been on pretty miserable teams since he came into the league, often with terrible defenses. Hard to blame him for "a lack of playoff wins" with the crap he's had around him and the way that team has been mismanaged.
funny what has Carr shown? Again playoff wins/sb runs. Only Foles has that.
Why is Rivers/Newton in tier 2, and Foles isn't? Cannot really disagree w/Tier 4 to much.
SB wins, even just playoff wins, is a pretty poor measure of a QB. Especially a QB under age 30.
You seem to think a QB belongs in a certain "tier" because he has won a SB or a certain number of playoff games. Can't believe anyone could think Foles belongs in the same rank as Rivers in a career-to-career comparison.
Like Rivers, there's been quite a few real good QBs who've never won a SB. And there's been a few meh QBs who got really hot at just the right time and did....but otherwise haven't been good over the years (Foles, Flacco).
As far as Carr goes, I don't think he's ever even played in a playoff game. One year I can recall the Raiders made a wildcard but Carr had been hurt just the week before and was out. Carr has been on pretty miserable teams since he came into the league, often with terrible defenses. Hard to blame him for "a lack of playoff wins" with the crap he's had around him and the way that team has been mismanaged.
If you are giving a guy a franchise like contract, ya I expect to have seen something from him to have earned it. Rivers is another good example of not investing in a qb to heavily. 11 playoffs, 5 wins, 13 years in the league. He's at least getting them there though.
I disagree it's not a good measure. If you are going to take a large portion of the cap, you better show you can play when it matters. Rivers, for instance, playoff numbers are flat bad, a steady drop from his regular season stats. Eli didn't get his team there as much, but when he did his play didn't fall off, in some cases it was better, and he helped his team to sb's and wins. QB's get judged on their playoff victories and sb runs. It's why Eli likely gets into the HoF, even though he's not a better qb statistically then Rivers. Rivers won't sniff the HoF.
You are correct in 6 years he hasn't had 1 playoff shot. That is Jay Cutler lvl stuff, and again like Culter we would have to trade for him in a market that is going to create a high price tag, and pay him to boot. Pretty stats like Cutler, but this time we have 6 years worth of him not elevating his team to the playoffs.
Whatever happens we just need for Pace to get the QB thing figured out soon.
Yeah, when you whiff on the #2 overall pick, it tends to have negative consequences for years.
I said this early this offseason: at QB, the Bears are up the creek without much of a paddle
You can't count on Trubisky suddenly becoming "the guy" so you have to have a viable Plan B/competition. And that's not easy or cheap to come by (as I've pointed out many times here). Some people like Ric will just scream: "don't pay any of them, just draft someone!"
Yeah, well, that's not so easy either buddy. Not gonna happen this year obviously and how do you know it can even happen next year? What if the Bears go 8-8 again in 2020? We won't have a draft pick high enough to get one of the top QB prospects in 2021 and how do we even know that QB draft class will turn out to be promising? Some years it simply sucks.
There are no easy answers. Unless of course you want to tank the 2020 season (3-13) to ensure a top-5 pick.
I have no idea what to think about this. I can even think of some positives
I know what to think of it. Poppycock,it was based on a rumor from a singular source that said he saw bears brass and eli eating dinner. Eli was done in NY a few years ago and bc of terrible management was able to cling on until last year when it was beyond obvious he was done. The bears do this and it's not even completion for Tru, this would be worse then dalton.
I have no idea what to think about this. I can even think of some positives
I know what to think of it. Poppycock,it was based on a rumor from a singular source that said he saw bears brass and eli eating dinner. Eli was done in NY a few years ago and bc of terrible management was able to cling on until last year when it was beyond obvious he was done. The bears do this and it's not even completion for Tru, this would be worse then dalton.
Eric Lambert is the "Sports Mockery" site guy right? His site literally has an article on every single QB in the NFL and draft linked to Chicago somehow. It is usually followed by another article on how said an wont work and another on how Pace is a moron if he doesn't get the same QB. I think he is bipolar, or he is throwing all his shit against the wall so that when one thing becomes true he can say "Look at me I was right".
I don't think you are allowed to criticize Lambert on this site. I did it once and got yelled at.
IMO Lambert is a clickbait machine as this generates revenue. When in clickbait mode, his product is basically specious BS, completely worthless.
But he does produce decent stuff once in a while (not very often though).
I don't think you are allowed to criticize Lambert on this site. I did it once and got yelled at.
IMO Lambert is a clickbait machine as this generates revenue. When in clickbait mode, his product is basically specious BS, completely worthless.
But he does produce decent stuff once in a while (not very often though).
Ya at this point anything from him has to be taken with a giant, hypotension causing, mouthful of salt. He seemed like he was working to be more legit a few years back and apparently that was to much work.