I was at the game Monday night so decided to watch the taped version last night. There were bad calls both ways but certainly none as damning as the two "hands to the face" calls... My other take away is GB dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball and shot itself in the foot nearly the entire first three quarters. Detroit can't expect to kick field goals and win on the road against a good team. GB was moving the ball at will and it's likely they win without those calls.
One can only imagine what was going through umpire Jeff Rice’s head when he made a pair of phantom calls which decided Monday’s game.
But it’s possible that Packers left tackle David Bakhtiari‘s words were still ringing in his ears.
Via Ryan Wood of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Bakhtiari admitted lobbying Rice prior to the calls, frustrated with Lions defensive end Trey Flowers pushing him in the greater head-and-neck region.
“I went over to the ref,” Bakhtiari said. “I said, ‘Hey, are we not calling hands to the face again? Because the past three plays, I’ve been staring at the sky.’ And he’s like, you know, he’s not looking at my side, but I at least made him aware.”
He clearly was, as Flowers was called for a pair of illegal-hands-to-the-face penalties that helped the Packers come back for the win. There might have been contact at some point in the night, if not on those particular plays.
“I can definitely tell you,” Bakhtiari said, “for a good portion of the game, I was getting my throat punched in, and I was looking up at the sky a fair amount. If you think about it, if your hand is in my throat, you’re probably hitting my facemask, which is pushing my head up in the sky.”
As expected, Flowers had a different read on the situation, though maybe he should have spent more time pleading with officials in advance.
I was at the game Monday night so decided to watch the taped version last night. There were bad calls both ways but certainly none as damning as the two "hands to the face" calls... My other take away is GB dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball and shot itself in the foot nearly the entire first three quarters. Detroit can't expect to kick field goals and win on the road against a good team. GB was moving the ball at will and it's likely they win without those calls.
i don't know how you can argue that. Both times the hands to the face were called the Lions had a stop and were going to get the ball back. These calls completely changed the outcome of the game. Instead of the Packers getting 6 points they came away with 14.
I was at the game Monday night so decided to watch the taped version last night. There were bad calls both ways but certainly none as damning as the two "hands to the face" calls... My other take away is GB dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball and shot itself in the foot nearly the entire first three quarters. Detroit can't expect to kick field goals and win on the road against a good team. GB was moving the ball at will and it's likely they win without those calls.
i don't know how you can argue that. Both times the hands to the face were called the Lions had a stop and were going to get the ball back. These calls completely changed the outcome of the game. Instead of the Packers getting 6 points they came away with 14.
Take those calls away and the Lions win.
wrong: On the first one the Packers trailed 20-15 with like 8 min left and would have punted. GB would have needed a stop on defense. The second one wouldn't have assured a Lions win but it did assure they didn't get the ball back to try for the win. To say: "take those calls away and the Lions win" is not truthful.
i don't know how you can argue that. Both times the hands to the face were called the Lions had a stop and were going to get the ball back. These calls completely changed the outcome of the game. Instead of the Packers getting 6 points they came away with 14.
Take those calls away and the Lions win.
wrong: On the first one the Packers trailed 20-15 with like 8 min left and would have punted. GB would have needed a stop on defense. The second one wouldn't have assured a Lions win but it did assure they didn't get the ball back to try for the win. To say: "take those calls away and the Lions win" is not truthful.
Lol. Ok. But you know you just made my point right?
wrong: On the first one the Packers trailed 20-15 with like 8 min left and would have punted. GB would have needed a stop on defense. The second one wouldn't have assured a Lions win but it did assure they didn't get the ball back to try for the win. To say: "take those calls away and the Lions win" is not truthful.
Lol. Ok. But you know you just made my point right?
Read closer: I implied that given how the Packers were moving the ball, it's a decent chance they win anyway(plausible). You implied that without the penalties the Lions would have won: Complete conjecture... Carry on.....
One can only imagine what was going through umpire Jeff Rice’s head when he made a pair of phantom calls which decided Monday’s game.
But it’s possible that Packers left tackle David Bakhtiari‘s words were still ringing in his ears.
Via Ryan Wood of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Bakhtiari admitted lobbying Rice prior to the calls, frustrated with Lions defensive end Trey Flowers pushing him in the greater head-and-neck region.
“I went over to the ref,” Bakhtiari said. “I said, ‘Hey, are we not calling hands to the face again? Because the past three plays, I’ve been staring at the sky.’ And he’s like, you know, he’s not looking at my side, but I at least made him aware.”
He clearly was, as Flowers was called for a pair of illegal-hands-to-the-face penalties that helped the Packers come back for the win. There might have been contact at some point in the night, if not on those particular plays.
“I can definitely tell you,” Bakhtiari said, “for a good portion of the game, I was getting my throat punched in, and I was looking up at the sky a fair amount. If you think about it, if your hand is in my throat, you’re probably hitting my facemask, which is pushing my head up in the sky.”
As expected, Flowers had a different read on the situation, though maybe he should have spent more time pleading with officials in advance.
Or maybe he tilted his head to the sky on his own to sell the penalty...
Lol. Ok. But you know you just made my point right?
Read closer: I implied that given how the Packers were moving the ball, it's a decent chance they win anyway(plausible). You implied that without the penalties the Lions would have won: Complete conjecture... Carry on.....
On the other hand your conjecture is right because...you're right? Your assumption that the Lions wouldnt have held the ball or scored was apparently somehow divinely appointed and revealed to you? I don't have to read closer I understand completely what happened. Maybe some intro to reasoning lessons or less self-deception and more intelluctual honesty would help you out.
