True. This is where it all starts. What has me a little confused (more than the normal state of confusion) is that Pace was here before. He is the constant. He also had a HC that he worked well with. Why is this new aggressive methodology happening only now? Is it driven by Nagy? I mean all of these coaching hires that we are impressed with are Nagy, so maybe he is the wild card... that catalyst that was needed. If so, his value to the organization is far greater than his value as a HC.
The Nagy hire was Pace, so all of the prep, the strategy that of having George and Ted with him to move quickly (which all of us banged on), that was all Pace. And yet during his first three years we never saw that type of real aggression. Only in the draft with Trubs. But in business strategy, etc... I never saw it.
I dunno. Just glad it is finally here and I hope that it translates to aggression on the field. Get your opponent down and keep hitting him relentlessly until the game is over. If the aggression works to get ahead, don't shift over to turtle running mode to protect the lead. The other guys are trying to take the lead away and then all of a sudden you don't have a lead because you were never trying to extend the lead... just to protect it. Keep doing what works until the end of the game. Hopefully a new BEars team takes the field this year.
True. This is where it all starts. What has me a little confused (more than the normal state of confusion) is that Pace was here before. He is the constant. He also had a HC that he worked well with. Why is this new aggressive methodology happening only now? Is it driven by Nagy? I mean all of these coaching hires that we are impressed with are Nagy, so maybe he is the wild card... that catalyst that was needed. If so, his value to the organization is far greater than his value as a HC.
The Nagy hire was Pace, so all of the prep, the strategy that of having George and Ted with him to move quickly (which all of us banged on), that was all Pace. And yet during his first three years we never saw that type of real aggression. Only in the draft with Trubs. But in business strategy, etc... I never saw it.
I dunno. Just glad it is finally here and I hope that it translates to aggression on the field. Get your opponent down and keep hitting him relentlessly until the game is over. If the aggression works to get ahead, don't shift over to turtle running mode to protect the lead. The other guys are trying to take the lead away and then all of a sudden you don't have a lead because you were never trying to extend the lead... just to protect it. Keep doing what works until the end of the game. Hopefully a new BEars team takes the field this year.
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True. You did not. You need to get that looked at.
Post by paytonisgod on Jan 15, 2018 16:00:05 GMT -6
If you're a new QB on a new team with a new offense do you just start chucking bombs down field on the first few plays? Or do you start with some small stuff to get in rhythm before you start going for longer plays?
Aggression isn't something that needs to be always on. Sometimes it's better to start slow, evaluate things first, and then pick your moments when you need to be aggressive. It seems obvious that that is Pace's methodology given the way he has operated so far.
If you will recall Emery was ultra-aggressive. Earlier on in his tenure people joked that he never slept as he always seemed to be making deals constantly. That's why I find the whole idea that the ownership was somehow holding Pace back kind of silly since they signed on to all of Emery's crazy stuff. Of course with Emery his aggression ultimately got exposed as recklessness. One of the potential problems with trying to be aggressive all the time.
If you're a new QB on a new team with a new offense do you just start chucking bombs down field on the first few plays? Or do you start with some small stuff to get in rhythm before you start going for longer plays?
Aggression isn't something that needs to be always on. Sometimes it's better to start slow, evaluate things first, and then pick your moments when you need to be aggressive. It seems obvious that that is Pace's methodology given the way he has operated so far.
If you will recall Emery was ultra-aggressive. Earlier on in his tenure people joked that he never slept as he always seemed to be making deals constantly. That's why I find the whole idea that the ownership was somehow holding Pace back kind of silly since they signed on to all of Emery's crazy stuff. Of course with Emery his aggression ultimately got exposed as recklessness. One of the potential problems with trying to be aggressive all the time.
A good call I'd say.
Pace is more measured, more methodical, but just as decisive once he's worked out his path. Even the wrong moves have not been followed by sheepish apologies. More of a shrug and an "it's in the past" saying he's ready to move on from it.
If there was any "holding back" I can only suggest that it's been an insistence on not committing to more long term deals with huge guarantees the team can't get out from under when needed. Whether Emery was right or wrong about Cutler strictly from a contract point of view that made it impossible for Pace and Fox not to accept him as their QB. The deal he gave Jared Allen also proved to be a costly one.
Under Pace we've gone back to shorter term deals with fewer dollars guaranteed or one year prove yourself worth another types. Only once a player has shown himself to be worth the big dollar extension have we offered it. That's painted us into a corner at CB and we have some OLBs who need replacing but for the most part it's kept his options open. Using the draft far more than FA seems to be a notable difference and that may have come down from the top.
If you're a new QB on a new team with a new offense do you just start chucking bombs down field on the first few plays? Or do you start with some small stuff to get in rhythm before you start going for longer plays?
Aggression isn't something that needs to be always on. Sometimes it's better to start slow, evaluate things first, and then pick your moments when you need to be aggressive. It seems obvious that that is Pace's methodology given the way he has operated so far.
If you will recall Emery was ultra-aggressive. Earlier on in his tenure people joked that he never slept as he always seemed to be making deals constantly. That's why I find the whole idea that the ownership was somehow holding Pace back kind of silly since they signed on to all of Emery's crazy stuff. Of course with Emery his aggression ultimately got exposed as recklessness. One of the potential problems with trying to be aggressive all the time.
A good call I'd say.
Pace is more measured, more methodical, but just as decisive once he's worked out his path. Even the wrong moves have not been followed by sheepish apologies. More of a shrug and an "it's in the past" saying he's ready to move on from it.
If there was any "holding back" I can only suggest that it's been an insistence on not committing to more long term deals with huge guarantees the team can't get out from under when needed. Whether Emery was right or wrong about Cutler strictly from a contract point of view that made it impossible for Pace and Fox not to accept him as their QB. The deal he gave Jared Allen also proved to be a costly one.
Under Pace we've gone back to shorter term deals with fewer dollars guaranteed or one year prove yourself worth another types. Only once a player has shown himself to be worth the big dollar extension have we offered it. That's painted us into a corner at CB and we have some OLBs who need replacing but for the most part it's kept his options open. Using the draft far more than FA seems to be a notable difference and that may have come down from the top.
+1 I wonder if Pace realized Fox was a dead man walking & wanted some roster flexibility for a new HC coming in (pick and choose who they keep for the new HC's needs). Maybe that's crazy thinking on my part though.
If you're a new QB on a new team with a new offense do you just start chucking bombs down field on the first few plays? Or do you start with some small stuff to get in rhythm before you start going for longer plays?
Aggression isn't something that needs to be always on. Sometimes it's better to start slow, evaluate things first, and then pick your moments when you need to be aggressive. It seems obvious that that is Pace's methodology given the way he has operated so far.
If you will recall Emery was ultra-aggressive. Earlier on in his tenure people joked that he never slept as he always seemed to be making deals constantly. That's why I find the whole idea that the ownership was somehow holding Pace back kind of silly since they signed on to all of Emery's crazy stuff. Of course with Emery his aggression ultimately got exposed as recklessness. One of the potential problems with trying to be aggressive all the time.
The problem with Emery was that he was being an HC and a GM at the same time. Trestman was just an overpaid OC.
Pace is more measured, more methodical, but just as decisive once he's worked out his path. Even the wrong moves have not been followed by sheepish apologies. More of a shrug and an "it's in the past" saying he's ready to move on from it.
If there was any "holding back" I can only suggest that it's been an insistence on not committing to more long term deals with huge guarantees the team can't get out from under when needed. Whether Emery was right or wrong about Cutler strictly from a contract point of view that made it impossible for Pace and Fox not to accept him as their QB. The deal he gave Jared Allen also proved to be a costly one.
Under Pace we've gone back to shorter term deals with fewer dollars guaranteed or one year prove yourself worth another types. Only once a player has shown himself to be worth the big dollar extension have we offered it. That's painted us into a corner at CB and we have some OLBs who need replacing but for the most part it's kept his options open. Using the draft far more than FA seems to be a notable difference and that may have come down from the top.
+1 I wonder if Pace realized Fox was a dead man walking & wanted some roster flexibility for a new HC coming in (pick and choose who they keep for the new HC's needs). Maybe that's crazy thinking on my part though.
My theory is this (granted it is just a theory), I think the reason why Pace didn't do much this season was that he made up his mind that Fox was gone regardless.