Texans players considered walking out on Friday over Bob McNair’s “inmate” remark Mike Florio ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports•Oct 27, 2017, 2:01 PM
And just when it seems like the rancor over the anthem controversy had settled to a slow simmer, it’s back on the front burner, lid rattling on the pan.
Tackle Duane Brown said Friday that Texans players considered walking out of practice on Friday over owner Bob McNair’s comment at last week’s ownership meeting that “[w]e can’t have the inmates running the prison.”
“I’m very upset,” Brown said, via Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle. “It sickened me. . . . It’s horrible. It’s frustrating.”
Brown added that, even though players decided not to leave, it’s not over.
It’s possible that receiver DeAndre Hopkins wasn’t sufficiently persuaded, given that he missed practice due to a personal day — and in light of the reality that coach Bill O’Brien refused to comment on whether the absence is connected to the McNair remark.
McNair has apologized for the choice of words, but not for the message. And that’s what should bother players more than McNair’s decision to use a fairly common figure of speech.
And now McNair has an uncommon problem: A possible revolt and a major distraction as the Texans prepare for an already daunting challenge in Seattle on Sunday.
It won't end. Not when you have a few owner who behave like the own a cotton plantation and their players are little more than slave field hands.
There is a probable compromise I just don't know if they'll ever get to it.
Where do you pull that from in this story?
And I'd bet more that the owners you speak of are more infected with greed rather than racism. I could be wrong since I know zero NFL owners or people that know NFL owners.
But am more concerned about someone being offended by a comment that, which in my world, has been used forever...and it is used to express or maintain stability for success or safety imo.
-In business it is used to keep rules, a positive appearance, etc. in place so that the company can continue to thrive and make money, if not grow and make more. -In schools it is used to ensure that there is order so that the children can focus on what is important "for them" cus they don't have a clue. -Or the original use, for an insane asylum, which helps people not die! lol
And if he had not heard that term before, which is possible as well, then he should figure out what it means before reacting, cus he is not an inmate, nor does he work at a prison.
It won't end. Not when you have a few owner who behave like the own a cotton plantation and their players are little more than slave field hands.
There is a probable compromise I just don't know if they'll ever get to it.
Where do you pull that from in this story?
And I'd bet more that the owners you speak of are more infected with greed rather than racism. I could be wrong since I know zero NFL owners or people that know NFL owners.
But am more concerned about someone being offended by a comment that, which in my world, has been used forever...and it is used to express or maintain stability for success or safety imo.
-In business it is used to keep rules, a positive appearance, etc. in place so that the company can continue to thrive and make money, if not grow and make more. -In schools it is used to ensure that there is order so that the children can focus on what is important "for them" cus they don't have a clue. -Or the original use, for an insane asylum, which helps people not die! lol
And if he had not heard that term before, which is possible as well, then he should figure out what it means before reacting, cus he is not an inmate, nor does he work at a prison.
My comment wasn't based on that story seqq but rather on some previous comments made by certain owners that display their attitude and bigotry.
This wouldn't even be an issue if Trumpty Dumpty hadn't made it one because he needs to create distractions every time some bad shit is about to hit the fan and be released in the media and most of is know that. Muellers's team is about to indict someone or someones on Monday so watch for yet another bubble of false patriotism from the WH this weekend. The color of Trumpy's blood is money green seqq not red, white, and blue.
And now with that I've crossed over a line and into politics so I'm done. Factually this whole deal is nothing but politics and I'm gonna suggest that we not even discuss it here any longer.
I can respect you don't want to get into a political conversation, and i certainly don't want one with you cus i already see we are standing on the opposite sides of the track in some ways lol not that i support Trump, but the indictments should be headed in the direction of people with the last name of Clinton. I do agree that Trump is greedy man and not charismatic at all.
But i just don't see this topic being all political. Sure politics have found their way into it at times, but these player(s) almost walking have no political association imo...plus it was a big deal before Trump entered the picture, so i can't agree it wouldn't even be an issue if Trump had kept his yapper shut, like he should have.
I guess i'm just searching for some kind of answer(s) as to why a grown person would find that phrase so offensive that they are seriously considering leaving their pro career for it. I just don't see the connection between inmates, prison, and the NFL...
seqq, I didn't take soulman's comment as racist, but as greed. NFL owners (like plantation owners) don't care about the "people" working for them except for their ability to make more money for the owners. To the owners, football players are tools, nothing more than cogs in a wheel that can be replaced at will, and the wheel keeps turning. (hey that sounds like an old Journey song.)
As far as the players, politics have no place in sports and they should act accordingly. Personally, I don't think the anthem should be played at sporting events. But when it is, it should be respected. There are other ways to protest Trump, greed, racism, etc.
I am not saying McNair is not racist, maybe he is... maybe he's not, but I certainly did not take this particular comment to be in any way racist and I don't get how anyone could.
All the guy was saying was a repeat of the saying "inmates running the asylum"
In other words, the employees are doing things ownership would rather they not do. (probably even the NFL despite what they say)
And I have to say I agree. Not that they should not protest something that they believe in... that's fine. But as a fan, I want to enjoy football, not watch someones agenda. Me personally.... don't mess with the anthem. Find some other way to protest. And don't do it during football. McNair may be racist, but I agree with him. If I own a McDonalds and the employees feel like they need to protest something not having anything to do with McDonalds, I don't want them doing it during work and getting my customers involved. And when they do that against ownership wishes, .... well the inmates are running the asylum and if I own the asylum, I don't like it.
Honestly, I don;t think the comment was anything more than that. I really do not think it had a lick to do with racism. I would be disappointed if it did, but whatever angle I look at it, I just don't see it.
I am not saying McNair is not racist, maybe he is... maybe he's not, but I certainly did not take this particular comment to be in any way racist and I don't get how anyone could.
All the guy was saying was a repeat of the saying "inmates running the asylum"
In other words, the employees are doing things ownership would rather they not do. (probably even the NFL despite what they say)
And I have to say I agree. Not that they should not protest something that they believe in... that's fine. But as a fan, I want to enjoy football, not watch someones agenda. Me personally.... don't mess with the anthem. Find some other way to protest. And don't do it during football. McNair may be racist, but I agree with him. If I own a McDonalds and the employees feel like they need to protest something not having anything to do with McDonalds, I don't want them doing it during work and getting my customers involved. And when they do that against ownership wishes, .... well the inmates are running the asylum and if I own the asylum, I don't like it.
Honestly, I don;t think the comment was anything more than that. I really do not think it had a lick to do with racism. I would be disappointed if it did, but whatever angle I look at it, I just don't see it.
Agreed
This will end when the TV revenue and ticket revenue finally start to fail and these guys are no longer making multi millions. That's where this might well be heading. They've lost viewership over the last 3 years, I think a total of 20% down. If that trend continues it's going to effect their pocketbooks and they'll move back.
seqq, I didn't take soulman's comment as racist, but as greed. NFL owners (like plantation owners) don't care about the "people" working for them except for their ability to make more money for the owners. To the owners, football players are tools, nothing more than cogs in a wheel that can be replaced at will, and the wheel keeps turning. (hey that sounds like an old Journey song.)
As far as the players, politics have no place in sports and they should act accordingly. Personally, I don't think the anthem should be played at sporting events. But when it is, it should be respected. There are other ways to protest Trump, greed, racism, etc.
In my experiences, this is the case for most places of business these days. Sure you have some solid caring family based businesses or what have you...but most businesses think of their employees as numbers.
I am not saying McNair is not racist, maybe he is... maybe he's not, but I certainly did not take this particular comment to be in any way racist and I don't get how anyone could.
All the guy was saying was a repeat of the saying "inmates running the asylum"
In other words, the employees are doing things ownership would rather they not do. (probably even the NFL despite what they say)
And I have to say I agree. Not that they should not protest something that they believe in... that's fine. But as a fan, I want to enjoy football, not watch someones agenda. Me personally.... don't mess with the anthem. Find some other way to protest. And don't do it during football. McNair may be racist, but I agree with him. If I own a McDonalds and the employees feel like they need to protest something not having anything to do with McDonalds, I don't want them doing it during work and getting my customers involved. And when they do that against ownership wishes, .... well the inmates are running the asylum and if I own the asylum, I don't like it.
Honestly, I don;t think the comment was anything more than that. I really do not think it had a lick to do with racism. I would be disappointed if it did, but whatever angle I look at it, I just don't see it.