i'd say you want to hit 52, but if a guy can throw 15 yard outs on time, idgaf. that's when it really matters, that's when the inches your fastball saves you beats a corner in coverage.
It's just starting to be gathered though, there isn't enough of it. It's to small to know what it means. It'd be like taking 15 years of weather data and trying to decide what it meant historically. They need to have the best qb's doing this test and then go back and see what that meant; right now most don't participate.
i'd say you want to hit 52, but if a guy can throw 15 yard outs on time, idgaf. that's when it really matters, that's when the inches your fastball saves you beats a corner in coverage.
Sometimes the issue with data is that it's given more weight than it deserves. This is one of those instances IMO. As Gabriel pointed out, spin matters more than speed and there are a host of other factors that aren't measured in a mathematical formula.
i'd say you want to hit 52, but if a guy can throw 15 yard outs on time, idgaf. that's when it really matters, that's when the inches your fastball saves you beats a corner in coverage.
Sometimes the issue with data is that it's given more weight than it deserves. This is one of those instances IMO. As Gabriel pointed out, spin matters more than speed and there are a host of other factors that aren't measured in a mathematical formula.
The other thing is, how much will a year in the weight room improve it? None of the best qb's really had strong arms, brees, manning, brady, coming out of college., none still do, but they all got a lot better once in the nfl.
Downfield accuracy is imo the most under rated stat. I remember back when I first got into fantasy football I read a magazine talking about it. Brees never had a cannon arm, but he completed more deep ball passes, at the same time everyone in Chicago was in love w/the sex cannon Rex Grossman, but he was one of the worst down field throwers when you looked at compleitions; at that time neither had big name great wr's. There is a timing and touch on passes that cannot be measured imo, that the best pro qb's end up having.
Post by lklrlolnlilklsox on Mar 14, 2017 10:39:26 GMT -6
Let me know when a QB runs and crow hops into a throw in the pocket. It's all about how you spin it standing behind your OL and Glennon has all the throws in his arm from there.
Who the heck is this QB named Ball Velocity, and why is he being discussed with our QB Glennon?
sorry, it's pie day (PI) and I'm buzzed on sugar.
regarding ball speed, how old is Watson? Maybe he just needs a year to grow and bulk up and develop his natural strength. Hitting the weight room should help also. Like one of the posts above pointed out (dachuckster's?), form has a big effect on speed. A little practice, natural growth, good form and weight training, Watson or any of these slow throwing kids will be fine. I still think a QB's success is more the mental processes and attitudes and how he handles pressure than any physical aspect of the game, once they get to the pro level.
Post by butkus3595 on Mar 14, 2017 13:07:00 GMT -6
One issue I have is that Greg mentioned grip strength, forearm and tricep strength in improving throwing speed but completely ignored lower body strength and thoracic mobility when it comes to throwing speed. There's more to it than just the upper body when it comes to throwing hard.