At this point in time who the hell knows what they'll do. Simply releasing him is a stupid is as stupid does move because he's the best QB we currently have on the roster. I really don't give a rip about how John Fox feels about him I'm more concerned about how Cutler feels about continuing to play under Fox. Fox has done nothing but poison the well for Pace.
One of the primary reasons the market for Cutler is lagging right is because of his shoulder injury and the other is the game Fox played last fall in which he made it clear he preferred Hoyer over Cutler. How's that for some astute personnel evaluation coming from the same guy who told Elway he was gonna start Osweiler in 2015 after Manning had lost the Super Bowl.
Elway said no you're not and we ended up with Fox messing up stuff in Chicago instead.
There's no rush here. No need at all to be desperate about a QB at the moment and plenty of time to let things play out. If Pace actually means it when he says all things are on the table including Cutler then to me it's a sign he's at least approaching it in an intelligent fashion despite being undermined by Fox.
As long as teams feel Cutler will be released they have no motivation to make a trade for him and assume his contract. Pace needs to counter that and Fox's lobbying in the media for bringing Hoyer back even though IMHO that would surely speed his being fired eventually. We'll be lucky to even manage an 8-8 season in 2018 with Cutler and AJ. Without them I see little chance of that.
If there is still a chance they can come to an agreement with AJ then that should be prioritized until it's either done or he's lost in FA. Then carry this QB thing along for a bit to see where it leads. Nothing absolutely has to be settled before then.
Talk that Garopplo is off the market is just that. IMHO Belicheat is pulling an old "take away" technique to ratchet up the offers he's getting. He wants a 1st round pick and he wants to see who'll jump and how high. The best way to do that is to first create the demand for something, see whose bidding and how much, then pull the item off the market which usually leads to higher bids in order to bring the item back on the market. Every good salesman on the planet has used this at one time or another and it usually works.
This decision is one Pace can't get wrong and the only thing that would justify releasing Cutler outright is that he has a far better option on the roster ready to take over now. Cousins will be pricier than Garoppolo and will ask for higher guarantees than Cutler got so it's doubtful ownership would bless that deal. Garoppolo is next and no matter what's been reported it's not a done deal yet. Anything is for sale for the right price.
Glennon is not an upgrade and would likely be as costly as Cutler plus we'd be back in the guaranteed money situation again for a guy who TB passed over as their starter in favor of Winston. If we're gonna pay for a backup I'll take Tom Brady's backup over Jameis Winston's any day. If we spend a top draft pick on a QB then Pace better be damn sure he's the right guy because again we'll have somewhere around $30 mil guaranteed tied up in him and this is not seen as a top QB class with multiple top ten caliber prospects. Making desperation grabs under these conditions tend to end up becoming huge mistakes.
I'm in favor of sticking with known quantities for now which includes Cutler if that's what it comes down to because we can't find a vet upgrade. Pace said it best when he told the media it's easier to recover from passing on someone you should have signed or drafted than it is from having signed or drafted the wrong guy and end up with tens of millions tied up in him you can't get out from under. Isn't that what Houston did with Osweiler?
In fact isn't that the same gripe some Bears fans have had with Cutler for the last three years? So....you want to do that all over again? Just asking.
At this point in time who the hell knows what they'll do. Simply releasing him is a stupid is as stupid does move because he's the best QB we currently have on the roster. I really don't give a rip about how John Fox feels about him I'm more concerned about how Cutler feels about continuing to play under Fox. Fox has done nothing but poison the well for Pace.
One of the primary reasons the market for Cutler is lagging right is because of his shoulder injury and the other is the game Fox played last fall in which he made it clear he preferred Hoyer over Cutler. How's that for some astute personnel evaluation coming from the same guy who told Elway he was gonna start Osweiler in 2015 after Manning had lost the Super Bowl.
Elway said no you're not and we ended up with Fox messing up stuff in Chicago instead.
There's no rush here. No need at all to be desperate about a QB at the moment and plenty of time to let things play out. If Pace actually means it when he says all things are on the table including Cutler then to me it's a sign he's at least approaching it in an intelligent fashion despite being undermined by Fox.
As long as teams feel Cutler will be released they have no motivation to make a trade for him and assume his contract. Pace needs to counter that and Fox's lobbying in the media for bringing Hoyer back even though IMHO that would surely speed his being fired eventually. We'll be lucky to even manage an 8-8 season in 2018 with Cutler and AJ. Without them I see little chance of that.
If there is still a chance they can come to an agreement with AJ then that should be prioritized until it's either done or he's lost in FA. Then carry this QB thing along for a bit to see where it leads. Nothing absolutely has to be settled before then.
Talk that Garopplo is off the market is just that. IMHO Belicheat is pulling an old "take away" technique to ratchet up the offers he's getting. He wants a 1st round pick and he wants to see who'll jump and how high. The best way to do that is to first create the demand for something, see whose bidding and how much, then pull the item off the market which usually leads to higher bids in order to bring the item back on the market. Every good salesman on the planet has used this at one time or another and it usually works.
This decision is one Pace can't get wrong and the only thing that would justify releasing Cutler outright is that he has a far better option on the roster ready to take over now. Cousins will be pricier than Garoppolo and will ask for higher guarantees than Cutler got so it's doubtful ownership would bless that deal. Garoppolo is next and no matter what's been reported it's not a done deal yet. Anything is for sale for the right price.
Glennon is not an upgrade and would likely be as costly as Cutler plus we'd be back in the guaranteed money situation again for a guy who TB passed over as their starter in favor of Winston. If we're gonna pay for a backup I'll take Tom Brady's backup over Jameis Winston's any day. If we spend a top draft pick on a QB then Pace better be damn sure he's the right guy because again we'll have somewhere around $30 mil guaranteed tied up in him and this is not seen as a top QB class with multiple top ten caliber prospects. Making desperation grabs under these conditions tend to end up becoming huge mistakes.
I'm in favor of sticking with known quantities for now which includes Cutler if that's what it comes down to because we can't find a vet upgrade. Pace said it best when he told the media it's easier to recover from passing on someone you should have signed or drafted than it is from having signed or drafted the wrong guy and end up with tens of millions tied up in him you can't get out from under. Isn't that what Houston did with Osweiler?
In fact isn't that the same gripe some Bears fans have had with Cutler for the last three years? So....you want to do that all over again? Just asking.
Soul, to be perfectly honest, yes, yes I do. I just can't stand Jay anymore. Like you said, well is poisoned. Its like you have a wife and you don't really like her anymore. You can't be affraid to ditch her because the next one could be worse. We need to try to find better. And if we fail, keep on trying. Lyrics, Aaliyah: And if at first you don"t succeed Then dust yourself off and try again
At this point in time who the hell knows what they'll do. Simply releasing him is a stupid is as stupid does move because he's the best QB we currently have on the roster. I really don't give a rip about how John Fox feels about him I'm more concerned about how Cutler feels about continuing to play under Fox. Fox has done nothing but poison the well for Pace.
One of the primary reasons the market for Cutler is lagging right is because of his shoulder injury and the other is the game Fox played last fall in which he made it clear he preferred Hoyer over Cutler. How's that for some astute personnel evaluation coming from the same guy who told Elway he was gonna start Osweiler in 2015 after Manning had lost the Super Bowl.
Elway said no you're not and we ended up with Fox messing up stuff in Chicago instead.
There's no rush here. No need at all to be desperate about a QB at the moment and plenty of time to let things play out. If Pace actually means it when he says all things are on the table including Cutler then to me it's a sign he's at least approaching it in an intelligent fashion despite being undermined by Fox.
As long as teams feel Cutler will be released they have no motivation to make a trade for him and assume his contract. Pace needs to counter that and Fox's lobbying in the media for bringing Hoyer back even though IMHO that would surely speed his being fired eventually. We'll be lucky to even manage an 8-8 season in 2018 with Cutler and AJ. Without them I see little chance of that.
If there is still a chance they can come to an agreement with AJ then that should be prioritized until it's either done or he's lost in FA. Then carry this QB thing along for a bit to see where it leads. Nothing absolutely has to be settled before then.
Talk that Garopplo is off the market is just that. IMHO Belicheat is pulling an old "take away" technique to ratchet up the offers he's getting. He wants a 1st round pick and he wants to see who'll jump and how high. The best way to do that is to first create the demand for something, see whose bidding and how much, then pull the item off the market which usually leads to higher bids in order to bring the item back on the market. Every good salesman on the planet has used this at one time or another and it usually works.
This decision is one Pace can't get wrong and the only thing that would justify releasing Cutler outright is that he has a far better option on the roster ready to take over now. Cousins will be pricier than Garoppolo and will ask for higher guarantees than Cutler got so it's doubtful ownership would bless that deal. Garoppolo is next and no matter what's been reported it's not a done deal yet. Anything is for sale for the right price.
Glennon is not an upgrade and would likely be as costly as Cutler plus we'd be back in the guaranteed money situation again for a guy who TB passed over as their starter in favor of Winston. If we're gonna pay for a backup I'll take Tom Brady's backup over Jameis Winston's any day. If we spend a top draft pick on a QB then Pace better be damn sure he's the right guy because again we'll have somewhere around $30 mil guaranteed tied up in him and this is not seen as a top QB class with multiple top ten caliber prospects. Making desperation grabs under these conditions tend to end up becoming huge mistakes.
I'm in favor of sticking with known quantities for now which includes Cutler if that's what it comes down to because we can't find a vet upgrade. Pace said it best when he told the media it's easier to recover from passing on someone you should have signed or drafted than it is from having signed or drafted the wrong guy and end up with tens of millions tied up in him you can't get out from under. Isn't that what Houston did with Osweiler?
In fact isn't that the same gripe some Bears fans have had with Cutler for the last three years? So....you want to do that all over again? Just asking.
Soul, to be perfectly honest, yes, yes I do. I just can't stand Jay anymore. Like you said, well is poisoned. Its like you have a wife and you don't really like her anymore. You can't be affraid to ditch her because the next one could be worse. We need to try to find better. And if we fail, keep on trying. Lyrics, Aaliyah: And if at first you don"t succeed Then dust yourself off and try again
I'm done with Cutler (saying this as someone who defended him over and over through the years) and Pace is clearly too. If he can squeeze a late round pick out of someone, great. If not, then just release him.
It's like an overdue divorce as you said. Expensive and painful and awkward but ultimately worth it. Cut your losses and move on, hopefully learning something for the "next one".