Seems more people in here care about future Cap Space rather than winning championships...
can't win championships mortgaging the farm for one guy.
Didn't we just do that for Mack? Who is one of the best at his positions?
Gould just like Mack is one of the best at his positions. I don't know if you remember but Parkey cost us the Eagles game with his missed. He cost us a first round bye with his horrible miss kicks that season.
can't win championships mortgaging the farm for one guy.
Didn't we just do that for Mack? Who is one of the best at his positions?
Gould just like Mack is one of the best at his positions. I don't know if you remember but Parkey cost us the Eagles game with his missed. He cost us a first round bye with his horrible miss kicks that season.
Games are won by a kicker.
I would not compare Gould with Mack. Most Bears fans were happy the Bears showed Gould the door when they let him go. He was doing a pretty good Parkey imitation himself back then. His last two years here he was hitting 75% and 84% of his field goals and missing them in the 30-39 yard range (and extra points too). Yes, he turned things around after he left and was hitting 97% for the 49ers last season. The "ideal" would be to bring in a younger guy on the way up. Kind of like we did when we brought in a young undrafted kid named Robbie Gould years ago. Yes, that is easier said than done, but it is my preference right now. Gould could revert back to the guy who was a dud for us when we let him go here.
You realize there's a great deal of middle ground between A) Parkey-fail and Z) desperately overpaying for an aging Gould when we have neither the draft capital or cap space to do so, right?
There's a lot of other letters in the alphabet between those two.
Can you name me another kicker who is 82-85 since 2016?
His age is irreverent to most other positions. He's one of the best in the game and is a clear upgrade over most kickers in the league.
Yeah he's had a nice 2nd wind to his career after sucking here the 2 seasons before he was released. So what?
can't win championships mortgaging the farm for one guy.
Didn't we just do that for Mack? Who is one of the best at his positions?
Gould just like Mack is one of the best at his positions. I don't know if you remember but Parkey cost us the Eagles game with his missed. He cost us a first round bye with his horrible miss kicks that season.
Games are won by a kicker.
The impact of a stud edge rusher who's one of the elite defenders in the game far far far exceeds that of a kicker, even a good one.
Want proof? Look at the FT tag costs for the 2 positions. Money talks and Mr. Market is impartial.
Didn't we just do that for Mack? Who is one of the best at his positions?
Gould just like Mack is one of the best at his positions. I don't know if you remember but Parkey cost us the Eagles game with his missed. He cost us a first round bye with his horrible miss kicks that season.
Games are won by a kicker.
The impact of a stud edge rusher who's one of the elite defenders in the game far far far exceeds that of a kicker, even a good one.
Want proof? Look at the FT tag costs for the 2 positions. Money talks and Mr. Market is impartial.
Bigger issue aside, trading for and signing Mack, and trading up for Miller are the exact reasons you cannot trade away any picks, or trade up in the draft. The draft is how now have to keep your team out of cap hell. Trading any picks and then paying a premium on a kicker is laughable and foolish. Not to mention history shows that Gould will get comfortable in Chicago, which is where things went bad for him before.
Getting Gould will end up costing them their ability to get players in other areas the team needs in the future. And there is no reason for it, there are 100's of kickers coming out of college every year, find a good one and get him here long term for a cheap contract.
The impact of a stud edge rusher who's one of the elite defenders in the game far far far exceeds that of a kicker, even a good one.
Want proof? Look at the FT tag costs for the 2 positions. Money talks and Mr. Market is impartial.
Bigger issue aside, trading for and signing Mack, and trading up for Miller are the exact reasons you cannot trade away any picks, or trade up in the draft. The draft is how now have to keep your team out of cap hell. Trading any picks and then paying a premium on a kicker is laughable and foolish. Not to mention history shows that Gould will get comfortable in Chicago, which is where things went bad for him before.
Getting Gould will end up costing them their ability to get players in other areas the team needs in the future. And there is no reason for it, there are 100's of kickers coming out of college every year, find a good one and get him here long term for a cheap contract.
+1,000
We splurged and gave up draft picks already. While some big expensive FAs are part of the roster equation -draft picks are the very heart and soul of building a team that can have sustained winning spanning years. The Bears need to stop now and just get to finding their own young affordable talent in the draft. We need to find the future Gould type kid and not spend draft picks and money on an old guy we had to get rid of once already.
Seems more people in here care about future Cap Space rather than winning championships...
You are nuttier than squirrel poop if you think a kicker is what's keeping the Bears from winning a championship. A team that is good enough to win a championship shouldn't need to rely on a kicker to win games.
History has proved that using a draft pick on a kicker does not pay off so why would trading a draft pick for a kicker be wise? Kickers are a crap shoot and anyone of them can have a great year. There are very few that have long standing, consistently good years in the NFL. All you can do is keep trying kickers and hope one does well. You spend time and money on the rest of your team so you don't have to rely on your kicker.
Bigger issue aside, trading for and signing Mack, and trading up for Miller are the exact reasons you cannot trade away any picks, or trade up in the draft. The draft is how now have to keep your team out of cap hell. Trading any picks and then paying a premium on a kicker is laughable and foolish. Not to mention history shows that Gould will get comfortable in Chicago, which is where things went bad for him before.
Getting Gould will end up costing them their ability to get players in other areas the team needs in the future. And there is no reason for it, there are 100's of kickers coming out of college every year, find a good one and get him here long term for a cheap contract.
+1,000
We splurged and gave up draft picks already. While some big expensive FAs are part of the roster equation -draft picks are the very heart and soul of building a team that can have sustained winning spanning years. The Bears need to stop now and just get to finding their own young affordable talent in the draft. We need to find the future Gould type kid and not spend draft picks and money on an old guy we had to get rid of once already.
In a salary cap league, where if you are a good team and you know you cannot keep everyone the draft is the very lifeblood of a team; espeically when the teams cap limitations are not b/c of the qb. Need to get a young flow of talent to replace the guys that are going to get paid that might not be the core of your team(like Howard this year), probably like Massie and Long in a couple years. Need OT/OG in the mix that can take over, same w/Burton and Robinson, probably cannot afford to let them see the end of their contracts, need picks that will take their place. A team cannot do that w/a handful of picks each year. Need 8-10 picks b/c some will crap out, some will hit; more picks more chances of hitting.