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Bears legend Olin Kreutz suggests team hires David Shaw
The Chicago Bears legend thinks the team needs to hire Stanford's David Shaw as their next head coach.

Former Chicago Bears Pro Bowler Olin Kreutz has never been shy with his feelings.

Now that he is no longer pancaking defensive linemen, Kreutz has been voicing his opinion on the current state of the Bears. Under head coach John Fox the team has won just 12 games since the start of the 2015 season. Fox currently sits with the worst winning percentage in team history and many have been calling for the organization to move on from him.

Kreutz not only called for the team to move on from him, but he also made a suggest on Thursday as to who the team should go after

The addition of Shaw, an offensive-minded coach, would conceivably help Mitch Trubisky with his development which should be priority No. 1 this offseason.

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Olin Kreutz wants David Shaw as new Bears HC. Dec 8, 2017 15:10:06 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan likes this

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All due respect to Olin but most college HC tend to fail in the NFL. But.....if we were to hire one Shaw should be a guy to look at. Stanford may be the closest thing to an NCAA/NFL team you'll find and their draftees tend to do well in the NFL.

I think ideally you'd want to see Shaw as an NFL OC first learning the pro game but that may not be possible.

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Dec 8, 2017 15:10:06 GMT -6 @soulman said:

All due respect to Olin but most college HC tend to fail in the NFL. But.....if we were to hire one Shaw should be a guy to look at. Stanford may be the closest thing to an NCAA/NFL team you'll find and their draftees tend to do well in the NFL.

I think ideally you'd want to see Shaw as an NFL OC first learning the pro game but that may not be possible.

Why I agree that College coaches don't do well, most of them of the successful college coaches to the NFL came from Stanford. I would have to say that Jimmy Johnson was a fluke. Minnesota gave up so much for Hershel Walker, I doubt the Cowboys under Johnson wouldn't have much of a huge success.

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Olin Kreutz wants David Shaw as new Bears HC. Dec 9, 2017 7:48:47 GMT -6 AlexM and MartianBearsFan like this

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Dec 8, 2017 15:10:06 GMT -6 @soulman said:

All due respect to Olin but most college HC tend to fail in the NFL. But.....if we were to hire one Shaw should be a guy to look at. Stanford may be the closest thing to an NCAA/NFL team you'll find and their draftees tend to do well in the NFL.

I think ideally you'd want to see Shaw as an NFL OC first learning the pro game but that may not be possible.

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And even when a college coach does eventually do well as an HC in the NFL, it usually isn't at the first HC gig. Coaching college kids in the college game is very different than coaching an NFL team.

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Dec 9, 2017 7:47:48 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Dec 8, 2017 15:10:06 GMT -6 @soulman said:

All due respect to Olin but most college HC tend to fail in the NFL. But.....if we were to hire one Shaw should be a guy to look at. Stanford may be the closest thing to an NCAA/NFL team you'll find and their draftees tend to do well in the NFL.

I think ideally you'd want to see Shaw as an NFL OC first learning the pro game but that may not be possible.

Why I agree that College coaches don't do well, most of them of the successful college coaches to the NFL came from Stanford. I would have to say that Jimmy Johnson was a fluke. Minnesota gave up so much for Hershel Walker, I doubt the Cowboys under Johnson wouldn't have much of a huge success.

There are only two that I'm aware of; Bill Walsh and Jim Harbaugh and Walsh had been an NFL assistant for 10 years prior to that.

Shaw does have a lengthy NFL background as well including a stint as the Ravens QB coach and as a Passing Game Coordinator in San Diego so we should probably think if of him as a potential fit based on that alone but he's never been a play caller in the NFL and that's what I was referring to.

Given the fact that we may not be a top destination for other HC prospects Shaw is a guy Pace may look at and since we have to adhere to the Rooney Rule in selecting candidates he also fits that requirement.

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Olin Kreutz wants David Shaw as new Bears HC. Dec 9, 2017 11:05:36 GMT -6

Post by MartianBearsFan on Dec 9, 2017 11:05:36 GMT -6

Dec 9, 2017 10:20:49 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Dec 9, 2017 7:47:48 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Why I agree that College coaches don't do well, most of them of the successful college coaches to the NFL came from Stanford. I would have to say that Jimmy Johnson was a fluke. Minnesota gave up so much for Hershel Walker, I doubt the Cowboys under Johnson wouldn't have much of a huge success.

There are only two that I'm aware of; Bill Walsh and Jim Harbaugh and Walsh had been an NFL assistant for 10 years prior to that.

Shaw does have a lengthy NFL background as well including a stint as the Ravens QB coach and as a Passing Game Coordinator in San Diego so we should probably think if of him as a potential fit based on that alone but he's never been a play caller in the NFL and that's what I was referring to.

Given the fact that we may not be a top destination for other HC prospects Shaw is a guy Pace may look at and since we have to adhere to the Rooney Rule in selecting candidates he also fits that requirement.

Well, we shall see what happens next month.

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Dec 9, 2017 11:05:36 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Dec 9, 2017 10:20:49 GMT -6 @soulman said:

There are only two that I'm aware of; Bill Walsh and Jim Harbaugh and Walsh had been an NFL assistant for 10 years prior to that.

Shaw does have a lengthy NFL background as well including a stint as the Ravens QB coach and as a Passing Game Coordinator in San Diego so we should probably think if of him as a potential fit based on that alone but he's never been a play caller in the NFL and that's what I was referring to.

Given the fact that we may not be a top destination for other HC prospects Shaw is a guy Pace may look at and since we have to adhere to the Rooney Rule in selecting candidates he also fits that requirement.

Well, we shall see what happens next month.

Agreed. I'm not opposed to David Shaw either. In fact if we can't hire one of the best NFL prospects I'd rather we took a shot with a younger (45) more energetic HC who has experienced success coaching up younger players. In addition to many others I believe his lack of an ability to do just that always made Focks a poor choice for a young rebuilding team. How do you develop young talent if you never play them?

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Olin Kreutz wants David Shaw as new Bears HC. Dec 9, 2017 12:45:09 GMT -6

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Dec 9, 2017 11:51:02 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Dec 9, 2017 11:05:36 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Well, we shall see what happens next month.

Agreed. I'm not opposed to David Shaw either. In fact if we can't hire one of the best NFL prospects I'd rather we took a shot with a younger (45) more energetic HC who has experienced success coaching up younger players. In addition to many others I believe his lack of an ability to do just that always made Focks a poor choice for a young rebuilding team. How do you develop young talent if you never play them?

Same here... As for the young coach, I'm somewhat glad it wasn't Adam Gase.

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Dec 9, 2017 12:45:09 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Dec 9, 2017 11:51:02 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Agreed. I'm not opposed to David Shaw either. In fact if we can't hire one of the best NFL prospects I'd rather we took a shot with a younger (45) more energetic HC who has experienced success coaching up younger players. In addition to many others I believe his lack of an ability to do just that always made Focks a poor choice for a young rebuilding team. How do you develop young talent if you never play them?

Same here... As for the young coach, I'm somewhat glad it wasn't Adam Gase.

Gase took over a Miami team badly in need of some talent upgrades as well. Cutler hasn't played any better there than he did here but then he came in late without much chance to do more than he has. They still look like an 8-8 team though and that's far better than we look.

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