NFL.com Glennon's pass breakdowns by distance/location

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Post by brasilbear on Sept 18, 2017 8:44:35 GMT -6

Again, a telling graph but missing situational information (down and distance). NFL really needs to make that stuff more readily available to fans.

note: Espn made a mistake in the top left of Glennon's chart. 1/2 for 14 yards yet passes thrown more than 20 yards.

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32 of 40 passes again inside 10 yards, at least only 2 were at or behind the LoS. Agree this lacks some information, but it shows that Glennon can pass deeper better then he can short. He seems to struggle w/placement on those short crossing routes. Wonder if that has to do w/that windup?

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Sept 18, 2017 8:47:54 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

32 of 40 passes again inside 10 yards, at least only 2 were at or behind the LoS. Agree this lacks some information, but it shows that Glennon can pass deeper better then he can short. He seems to struggle w/placement on those short crossing routes. Wonder if that has to do w/that windup?

Or processing. It looked like on first watch that he was throwing just a hair behind the receivers who were crossing in front of him. Is that an accuracy issue or a processing issue? Its almost like he doesn't know how to lead a receiver, but thats like QBing 101 right? Its like playing catch with a kid that hasn't figured out the concept of throwing to where you will be not where you are.

I honestly don't know if the passing OFF is limited because Glennon doesn't throw longer than 10 yards or if Fox/Loggains won't let him throw more than 10 yards. The WRs don't help, thats the God honest truth, but something has got to give. TB totally sold out to stop Howard, totally in running situations. I saw on twitter that Loggains never passed on first down yesterday. If that's true, IMO thats fire-able play calling. I need to check the PBP to make sure that is/was true.

I feel bad for Glennon having to face PITT next week. The statue is going to get hammered. And the DEF having to cover Brown and Bryant? Good lord.

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NFL.com Glennon's pass breakdowns by distance/location Sept 18, 2017 9:09:49 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Sept 18, 2017 9:09:49 GMT -6

Sept 18, 2017 9:03:18 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Sept 18, 2017 8:47:54 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

32 of 40 passes again inside 10 yards, at least only 2 were at or behind the LoS. Agree this lacks some information, but it shows that Glennon can pass deeper better then he can short. He seems to struggle w/placement on those short crossing routes. Wonder if that has to do w/that windup?

Or processing. It looked like on first watch that he was throwing just a hair behind the receivers who were crossing in front of him. Is that an accuracy issue or a processing issue? Its almost like he doesn't know how to lead a receiver, but thats like QBing 101 right? Its like playing catch with a kid that hasn't figured out the concept of throwing to where you will be not where you are.

I honestly don't know if the passing OFF is limited because Glennon doesn't throw longer than 10 yards or if Fox/Loggains won't let him throw more than 10 yards. The WRs don't help, thats the God honest truth, but something has got to give. TB totally sold out to stop Howard, totally in running situations. I saw on twitter that Loggains never passed on first down yesterday. If that's true, IMO thats fire-able play calling. I need to check the PBP to make sure that is/was true.

I feel bad for Glennon having to face PITT next week. The statue is going to get hammered. And the DEF having to cover Brown and Bryant? Good lord.

Cutler always struggled w/leading WR's. he always waited to long to get the ball out before the break, so I don't think it's football 101.

I honestly think it's both. I think Fox/Loggains want a short ball control O, with limited downfield passes; and I think Glennon isn't willing to push the ball enough when given the option b/c of Fox/loggains small ball approach. I don't htink having WR's worth a damn helps either.

He's a statue, the interior OL is decimated and there are no WR's worth a damn to get the ball to. Next Sunday is a worse case scenerio.

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Sept 18, 2017 9:09:49 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Sept 18, 2017 9:03:18 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Or processing. It looked like on first watch that he was throwing just a hair behind the receivers who were crossing in front of him. Is that an accuracy issue or a processing issue? Its almost like he doesn't know how to lead a receiver, but thats like QBing 101 right? Its like playing catch with a kid that hasn't figured out the concept of throwing to where you will be not where you are.

I honestly don't know if the passing OFF is limited because Glennon doesn't throw longer than 10 yards or if Fox/Loggains won't let him throw more than 10 yards. The WRs don't help, thats the God honest truth, but something has got to give. TB totally sold out to stop Howard, totally in running situations. I saw on twitter that Loggains never passed on first down yesterday. If that's true, IMO thats fire-able play calling. I need to check the PBP to make sure that is/was true.

I feel bad for Glennon having to face PITT next week. The statue is going to get hammered. And the DEF having to cover Brown and Bryant? Good lord.

Cutler always struggled w/leading WR's. he always waited to long to get the ball out before the break, so I don't think it's football 101.

I honestly think it's both. I think Fox/Loggains want a short ball control O, with limited downfield passes; and I think Glennon isn't willing to push the ball enough when given the option b/c of Fox/loggains small ball approach. I don't htink having WR's worth a damn helps either.

He's a statue, the interior OL is decimated and there are no WR's worth a damn to get the ball to. Next Sunday is a worse case scenerio.

Its definitely a series of cascading errors each one making the situation worse and worse.

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NFL.com Glennon's pass breakdowns by distance/location Sept 18, 2017 9:34:56 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Sept 18, 2017 9:34:56 GMT -6

Sept 18, 2017 9:03:18 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Sept 18, 2017 8:47:54 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

32 of 40 passes again inside 10 yards, at least only 2 were at or behind the LoS. Agree this lacks some information, but it shows that Glennon can pass deeper better then he can short. He seems to struggle w/placement on those short crossing routes. Wonder if that has to do w/that windup?

Or processing. It looked like on first watch that he was throwing just a hair behind the receivers who were crossing in front of him. Is that an accuracy issue or a processing issue? Its almost like he doesn't know how to lead a receiver, but thats like QBing 101 right? Its like playing catch with a kid that hasn't figured out the concept of throwing to where you will be not where you are.

I honestly don't know if the passing OFF is limited because Glennon doesn't throw longer than 10 yards or if Fox/Loggains won't let him throw more than 10 yards. The WRs don't help, thats the God honest truth, but something has got to give. TB totally sold out to stop Howard, totally in running situations. I saw on twitter that Loggains never passed on first down yesterday. If that's true, IMO thats fire-able play calling. I need to check the PBP to make sure that is/was true.

I feel bad for Glennon having to face PITT next week. The statue is going to get hammered. And the DEF having to cover Brown and Bryant? Good lord.

From the first time I watched Glennon at practice this year it stood out to me that he seemed slow to process what was happening on the field. I posted that here during training camp. I see the same thing now. And on top of that some of his passes obviously just go a bit wild. His ball placement, even with completions, is often pretty bad. He has such poor mobility too. He isn't much of a QB. I'm not hating on the guy, but just saying he's not very good.

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Sept 18, 2017 8:44:35 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Again, a telling graph but missing situational information (down and distance). NFL really needs to make that stuff more readily available to fans.

note: Espn made a mistake in the top left of Glennon's chart. 1/2 for 14 yards yet passes thrown more than 20 yards.

I guess they mixed up the Jersey and yards.

(7:44) (Shotgun) 8-M.Glennon pass deep right to 14-D.Thompson to TB 34 for 20 yards (23-C.Conte).

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