Post by riczaj01 on Mar 21, 2017 18:14:49 GMT -6
Mar 20, 2017 22:31:33 GMT -6 @soulman said:
Well to begin with Alex Spotrac MV is an estimate based on that players production vs others who are similar and like any other commodity in short supply their prices will vary based largely on perception. True MV can only be established by what the parties can agree on. Pace no doubt perceives these players will be more productive in Chicago than they may have been elsewhere or at least that would be the train of logic. Some may and others may not so we'll see how it all comes out later this year.But in the end to me it's far less about what he paid than it is what did he buy?
Is Demps an upgrade at Safety or did we just sign another Antrel Rolle. Where does this leave Amos who was a highly touted All Rookie Team draft pick a year ago.
Can Glennon manage the offense and win more often than Cutler could have or any other career type backup?
Are Amukamara and Cooper gonna take Porters job away and what about Fuller and Hall? There's one UFA, a top draft pick, and a touted 4th rounder who played well at times but who also struggled with injuries. What about Callahan and LeBlanc both of who turned in some good games. If we drafted well and or signed good UDFAs or UFAs why this apparent wholesale move to replace. Aren't any of these guys "ascending"?
Isn't Wheaton simply a trade off for Royal or is that Wright? We lost a top five 2017 UFA and we replaced him with these two guys. I don't see the gain.
Sims may or may not be Marty Bennett without the mouth but little in his career so far pegs him as much more than an in-line TE whose caught a few passes. He's not even the equal of Zach Miller as a pass catcher let alone a Greg Olsen.
How many guys did we sign? Was it 8 or 9? Even if one or two do "ascend" I have to ask will the others actually be any better than who we have because many of the same things have been said about them? Did we upgrade or just spend some cap money because we had to in order to comply with the CBA and fans would be even more in their faces if they signed no one? Let's not forget some of these guys were not the player Pace set out to sign. They were farther down on his list kinda like the girl you do take to the prom after three others turned you down.
I've been accused of being pessimistic when in reality all I'm trying to do is be realistic. Simply turning your t-shirt, shorts, and socks inside out is not the same as a change of clothing. So I'm questioning both the moves and the motives.
Demps is a Vet which creates the young vs old competition...which can be good.
Glennon moves you on from Cutler and that REALLY needed to happen...decent gamble and signing considering the situation imo
The secondary wasn't good to begin with, so bringing in anyone with skills is a plus for that group. Do jobs get lost?..sure! but only for those who lose the competition. At worse we get several good DB's for a year or two...awww that would suck!
AJ didn't want to play here period...top FA's don't sign one year deals to get PAID, and I am fine with Pace not shooting the moon on the injury proned PED player.
Just like how Martz dropped Olsen, maybe they aren't looking for a receiving first Te. And like the DB's, the position needs competition and they got it imo
I would rate this off-season a positive mainly due to the fact that they are bringing in new guys....regardless....there use to be talk on the old boards about continually trying to fit the square peg into a circle kind of mentality...i don't see that with Pace/Fox
Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't, but i personally don't like reruns so i am fine with the moves they have made since Pace has came here. May not feel that way in 2 years lol but oh well....
What he has done since was brought in a lot of guys that can create a solid base and create competition from the floor to the ceiling. And the team needs that. If the draftees cannot beat out what is here, then they are flat not good enough to be here. If they do earn starting time then they earned it. And if that happens then you have the makings of a team that will start to win.