There is a difference between a team that wins a couple of championships and a real dynasty. What KC does now will determine what their legacy will be.
IDK details of their cap situation but I imagine it isn't good if they're balking at paying Chris Jones--a stud interior pass rusher in his prime.
They let key WRs like Hill, Hardman, Watkins all go and seemingly have replaced them with young draft picks that don't look ready and one of David's "lost dogs" in Kadarius Toney, who was a 1st round bust castoff from the NYG. They replaced both OTs too and probably overpaid for Taylor at LT.
I'm sure they will bounce back from week 1 but yeah they don't look as dominant as many thought.
I've seen both the Edward DeBartolo owned 49ers and the Robert Kraft owned Patriots reinvent themselves time after time. These are the teams I think of when I use the term "dynasty". If you look at the history of both of those franchises, they will have a less than successful season when they hit the end of a mini run and then they just keep coming back and do deep playoff run after deep playoff run.
I know I'm dreaming, but this is what I hope that the tenure of Warren and Poles brings to the team.
Wasn't the LT for the Chiefs one of the OL-men Poles was getting hammered on here for not signing?
Let’s see what Wright can do with him. Hutch is a load for any RT to handle.
As PTisme has pointed out, Marcedes Lewis is essentially a 3rd OT on the field. He's almost exclusively a blocker out there to assist a tackle on the edge. Maybe he catches a pass in the flat 1-2x a game. I assume he will be lining up to help against the best edge rushers every week.
Hutch is a stud, no doubt about it. Guess what...Darnell Wright is a freakin' stud too. He's gonna have his rookie moments where he looks bad but I'm very confident he will become an excellent OT. And again, we don't play Detroit until mid-November so he will have experience under his belt by then.
Let’s see what Wright can do with him. Hutch is a load for any RT to handle.
What does Wright have to do with my comment? Who is talking about the Chiefs RT? I said LT.
Wasn't the LT for the Chiefs one of the guys people here were hammering Poles for not signing?
He was one of 3 OTs set to hit the FA market that made sense for the Bears to look at. IIRC, they were never in on him (Taylor) but were linked to McGlinchey, only to drop off when his price got too high.
The Carolina deal right before FA started changed everything. Landing Moore in the trade meant that WR was no longer a 1st round priority (thankfully because last years WR 1st round class was nothing special). There was more 1st round talent at OT than there was at WR.
It looks like a smart move by Poles at this point.
What does Wright have to do with my comment? Who is talking about the Chiefs RT? I said LT.
Wasn't the LT for the Chiefs one of the guys people here were hammering Poles for not signing?
He was one of 3 OTs set to hit the FA market that made sense for the Bears to look at. IIRC, they were never in on him (Taylor) but were linked to McGlinchey, only to drop off when his price got too high.
The Carolina deal right before FA started changed everything. Landing Moore in the trade meant that WR was no longer a 1st round priority (thankfully because last years WR 1st round class was nothing special). There was more 1st round talent at OT than there was at WR.
It looks like a smart move by Poles at this point.
Like I said, let’s see how Wright handles Hutch in November.
I still would have taken Carter or JSN over Wright, but that is now a badly flogged dead horse at this point.
Wasn't the LT for the Chiefs one of the OL-men Poles was getting hammered on here for not signing?
Let’s see what Wright can do with him. Hutch is a load for any RT to handle.
He is a load. Bears better pull up their "big boy" pants when they play Detroit. Last year the Lions laid over 70 points on us - they had 10 sacks alone. And Hutchinson is legit good... there is a reason why he was drafted the #2 guy in the entire draft last year. His rookie season (last year) he put up bigtime numbers... 53 QB pressures, 11 sacks, 37 hurries, and last night we saw what he can do to a team - a good team.
Bottom line is that Detroit is a good team. They sure owned us last year - and they are a better team this year. Bears need to show they have significantly improved and actually beat the Lions. Beating Green Bay on Sunday would be a nice start.
He was one of 3 OTs set to hit the FA market that made sense for the Bears to look at. IIRC, they were never in on him (Taylor) but were linked to McGlinchey, only to drop off when his price got too high.
The Carolina deal right before FA started changed everything. Landing Moore in the trade meant that WR was no longer a 1st round priority (thankfully because last years WR 1st round class was nothing special). There was more 1st round talent at OT than there was at WR.
It looks like a smart move by Poles at this point.
Like I said, let’s see how Wright handles Hutch in November.
I still would have taken Carter or JSN over Wright, but that is now a badly flogged dead horse at this point.
Let’s see what Wright can do with him. Hutch is a load for any RT to handle.
He is a load. Bears better pull up their "big boy" pants when they play Detroit. Last year the Lions laid over 70 points on us - they had 10 sacks alone. And Hutchinson is legit good... there is a reason why he was drafted the #2 guy in the entire draft last year. His rookie season (last year) he put up bigtime numbers... 53 QB pressures, 11 sacks, 37 hurries, and last night we saw what he can do to a team - a good team.
Bottom line is that Detroit is a good team. They sure owned us last year - and they are a better team this year. Bears need to show they have significantly improved and actually beat the Lions. Beating Green Bay on Sunday would be a nice start.
Last years Bears team was in full tank mode, especially in the 2nd half of the year. They weren't even pretending to be trying to win. The roster has already been turned over by half. This is a vastly different team than what faced Detroit late last season when they were hot and we were tanking.
Since we don't play them again until mid-November I'm not gonna worry about it. Lots of stuff will change between now and then. Getting back to opening day, it looks all but certain that Watson will be out for Green Bay. Doubs may play but won't be 100% even if he does. Rest of Packers WR & TE groups are all rookies, including some UDFA.
BTW, Bears injury report today was CLEAN. Brisker is IN for Sunday.
If Bears can't beat this team at home, worrying about Detroit will be largely academic. No excuse for not winning this game.
PS: Watson now officially out. Doubs questionable.
He is a load. Bears better pull up their "big boy" pants when they play Detroit. Last year the Lions laid over 70 points on us - they had 10 sacks alone. And Hutchinson is legit good... there is a reason why he was drafted the #2 guy in the entire draft last year. His rookie season (last year) he put up bigtime numbers... 53 QB pressures, 11 sacks, 37 hurries, and last night we saw what he can do to a team - a good team.
Bottom line is that Detroit is a good team. They sure owned us last year - and they are a better team this year. Bears need to show they have significantly improved and actually beat the Lions. Beating Green Bay on Sunday would be a nice start.
Last years Bears team was in full tank mode, especially in the 2nd half of the year. They weren't even pretending to be trying to win. The roster has already been turned over by half. This is a vastly different team than what faced Detroit late last season when they were hot and we were tanking.
Since we don't play them again until mid-November I'm not gonna worry about it. Lots of stuff will change between now and then. Getting back to opening day, it looks all but certain that Watson will be out for Green Bay. Doubs may play but won't be 100% even if he does. Rest of Packers WR & TE groups are all rookies, including some UDFA.
BTW, Bears injury report today was CLEAN. Brisker is IN for Sunday.
If Bears can't beat this team at home, worrying about Detroit will be largely academic. No excuse for not winning this game.
PS: Watson now officially out. Doubs questionable.
That's pretty much my point (we'd better be able to beat the Packers). Because the Lions seem to be tougher than Green Bay... that seems to be a shell of its former self. I see this game on Sunday as especially important. First, if we can't beat this year's version of GB then we are pretty weak. The Lions are a good team. Not saying they are some great team. But they are not the Lions of old where you could just chalk them up as 2 wins a season most years. I do respect what they are doing in Detroit. Watching that team perform it is looking like a very solid team overall. Not many weaknesses there. Goff isn't great, but he's "enough" of a QB that a good surrounding team can win with.
The Bears have done a lot since last year ended. My hope is that we see some significant results on Sunday with the better roster. I 100% get it that the team is a work in progress and this is the 2nd year of Poles/Eberflus - and last season was a tank year. But all the same, we SHOULD see some progress now. Then over the course of this season we should see improvement with these very young/new players as they get more game experience in the Bears' schemes.
The NFCN is changing... I'm not sure what to expect as far as the final end of the season rankings for the 4 teams. Could be anything at this point - yes, even the Bears could be Division winners... or heck, in the cellar at #4 or something in between. But Detroit has shown they are a good team. They showed the Bears that last year and now are looking to me as better.