I'm really curious to see the QBs in this next PS game... Fields and the rest. Regarding Bagent, I liked the quote in this article "He's got the tools. You don't throw 159 career touchdown passes at any level without talent. But he's got a little something extra."
LINK Bears excited about QB2 competition Tyson Bagent ‘created'
I'm really curious to see the QBs in this next PS game... Fields and the rest. Regarding Bagent, I liked the quote in this article "He's got the tools. You don't throw 159 career touchdown passes at any level without talent. But he's got a little something extra."
LINK Bears excited about QB2 competition Tyson Bagent ‘created'
I truly hope he comes out with the 2s next game. Then Walker. If Walker stinks it up again Peterman is QB3. Walker gets the cut.
I watched this earlier today. It's pretty objective and not "over the top" - yet, there is no denying this guy has talent. He was a Division-I talent buried in the D2 wilderness. Poles found him and we have a chance to get a pretty solid backup in this guy. He shouldn't be QB2 this year, but surely we can carry him as a QB3. There is zero chance this guy is safe on the practice squad. He's a goner if we try to get him there and keep him there. He is a legit talent.
I feel that Bagent could be developed into a starting NFL QB. I don't think that he will ever be a real threat to Fields as the Bears #1 QB. Fields has physical skills/talent that are extremely rare in the NFL. And, as long as he continues to develop, he will become practically irreplaceable. But Bagent can develop into an above average NFL starting QB and could end up being a very valuable trade commodity.
I'm thinking something along the lines of the 2017 Garoppolo trade from the Patriots to the 49ers. Don't laugh. At then end of the 2016 season, Jay Cutler had outlived his time here in Chicago and we ended up trading up to get that awesome prosect, Mitch Trubusky.
At that time, how many of us were willing to give up just about anything to get someone like Garoppolo for the Bears? At that point in time Garoppolo had a QB rating around/just over 100 (36 out of 94 passes for 690 yds, 5 TDs and 0 INT). And the Patriots got a decent 2nd round pick for him.
I can see a scenario where Bagent develops nicely, we get 3+ years of a decent backup QB out of Bagent and then when we need to pay him after his rookie contract, we get a Day1/Day 2 pick.
The 23-year-old from Martinsburg, West Virginia, immediately endeared himself to the Bears' coaching staff during rookie minicamp when he elected to learn the proper footwork needed to run the offense instead of just racking up completions with the mechanics he used at Shepherd. He was inaccurate on Day 1 but quickly improved, showing the Bears he was a quick learner with rare work ethic."
The 23-year-old from Martinsburg, West Virginia, immediately endeared himself to the Bears' coaching staff during rookie minicamp when he elected to learn the proper footwork needed to run the offense instead of just racking up completions with the mechanics he used at Shepherd. He was inaccurate on Day 1 but quickly improved, showing the Bears he was a quick learner with rare work ethic."
This is one of several reasons I am so high on Bagent. One of the other reasons is he seems to be a very intent student of the game. He needs to know all the theory of why plays are run the way they are run. I've seen video breakdowns on his college and pre-season play that indicate he is almost calling audibles like a veteran.
The 23-year-old from Martinsburg, West Virginia, immediately endeared himself to the Bears' coaching staff during rookie minicamp when he elected to learn the proper footwork needed to run the offense instead of just racking up completions with the mechanics he used at Shepherd. He was inaccurate on Day 1 but quickly improved, showing the Bears he was a quick learner with rare work ethic."
This is one of several reasons I am so high on Bagent. One of the other reasons is he seems to be a very intent student of the game. He needs to know all the theory of why plays are run the way they are run. I've seen video breakdowns on his college and pre-season play that indicate he is almost calling audibles like a veteran.
You could tell in PS that he had a level of comfort and pocket presence that PJW didn't have. He was good at recognizing what he was seeing and knowing where to go with the ball quickly. He looked POISED out there.
Obviously, just PS and he was playing against mostly backups so he is definitely a project. But at least there's something to work with there.
This is one of several reasons I am so high on Bagent. One of the other reasons is he seems to be a very intent student of the game. He needs to know all the theory of why plays are run the way they are run. I've seen video breakdowns on his college and pre-season play that indicate he is almost calling audibles like a veteran.
You could tell in PS that he had a level of comfort and pocket presence that PJW didn't have. He was good at recognizing what he was seeing and knowing where to go with the ball quickly. He looked POISED out there.
Obviously, just PS and he was playing against mostly backups so he is definitely a project. But at least there's something to work with there.
Bill Parcells rules for drafting a QB (for a different game in a different era) included being a 3-year starter, start 30 games, win 23 games, 2-1 TD/INT ratio, and complete 60% of your passes. Today teams are looking at traits as much as college production....but Bagent hit all the markers.
4 yrs as a starter, 53 starts, 43 wins, 3-1 TD/INT, 68% comp.
I'm not sure I'd roll 100% with Parcells but I think when you are looking at players to draft later or to pick up as UDFA, roll with the Parcell rules.
You could tell in PS that he had a level of comfort and pocket presence that PJW didn't have. He was good at recognizing what he was seeing and knowing where to go with the ball quickly. He looked POISED out there.
Obviously, just PS and he was playing against mostly backups so he is definitely a project. But at least there's something to work with there.
Bill Parcells rules for drafting a QB (for a different game in a different era) included being a 3-year starter, start 30 games, win 23 games, 2-1 TD/INT ratio, and complete 60% of your passes. Today teams are looking at traits as much as college production....but Bagent hit all the markers.
4 yrs as a starter, 53 starts, 43 wins, 3-1 TD/INT, 68% comp.
I'm not sure I'd roll 100% with Parcells but I think when you are looking at players to draft later or to pick up as UDFA, roll with the Parcell rules.
Definitely a good place to start (Parcell rules).
IIRC, Anthony Richardson missed several of those criteria but still got drafted #4 overall which tells you how much "traits" now matter. I predict he will be a bust just like Trubisky, who also failed to meet Parcell's criteria.
