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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 13:32:47 GMT -6 jamaisvu likes this

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Nov 28, 2016 13:11:31 GMT -6 jj30 said:

Nov 28, 2016 12:34:26 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

AJ + Miller + Real TE + White/another good WR drafted in the 2-4th rounds + a real QB could make this team very difficult to defend.

Let's not forget the O line because the better it is the better the QB looks and the better the rest of the Offense plays

Well imo the OL is fine, could it be better sure, but when the OL has qb's that don't hold onto the to the last sec they have given up 4 sacks in 7 games. When they have a QB that refuses to get rid of the ball quickly 17 sacks in 5 games.

The OL is also allowing these RB's to average 4.5 ypc, not just Howard, all of them.

And that's while being beat down and hurt. The OL could use an upgrade and some depth but just the addition of an actual legit starting QB and a few reliable weapons would help the OL more then a RT is going to help all those pieces.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 13:38:06 GMT -6 via mobile riczaj01 likes this

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Nov 28, 2016 13:11:31 GMT -6 jj30 said:

Let's not forget the O line because the better it is the better the QB looks and the better the rest of the Offense plays

I was rather impressed with them yesterday. The Titans have a decent DL and the OL did not allow a sack and gave Howard some space.

This is with the two second string guards too. Even Massie is playing better.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 13:43:32 GMT -6

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Nov 28, 2016 13:38:06 GMT -6 jamaisvu said:

Nov 28, 2016 13:11:31 GMT -6 jj30 said:

Let's not forget the O line because the better it is the better the QB looks and the better the rest of the Offense plays

I was rather impressed with them yesterday. The Titans have a decent DL and the OL did not allow a sack and gave Howard some space.

This is with the two second string guards too. Even Massie is playing better.

If you believe in PFF, I believe Massie had the highest OL grade yesterday.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 13:53:34 GMT -6 via mobile riczaj01 likes this

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Nov 28, 2016 13:43:32 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Nov 28, 2016 13:38:06 GMT -6 jamaisvu said:

I was rather impressed with them yesterday. The Titans have a decent DL and the OL did not allow a sack and gave Howard some space.

This is with the two second string guards too. Even Massie is playing better.

If you believe in PFF, I believe Massie had the highest OL grade yesterday.

Did not even see that, but I was keeping an extra eye on him. Solid game. Not flawless, but solid. Almost all of Howards best runs were his way too.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 13:57:48 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Nov 28, 2016 13:57:48 GMT -6

I never hated the pick up, and I wouldn't be opposed of some FA/mid draft pick competition for him, but if it doesn't happen it won't kill me.

I said all offseason that if you have a WCO where the ball comes out quickly that I thought he'd be fine, and it seems when you have QB's that run a WCO and get rid of the ball quickly that is the case.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 14:25:17 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

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Nov 28, 2016 13:43:32 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Nov 28, 2016 13:38:06 GMT -6 jamaisvu said:

I was rather impressed with them yesterday. The Titans have a decent DL and the OL did not allow a sack and gave Howard some space.

This is with the two second string guards too. Even Massie is playing better.

If you believe in PFF, I believe Massie had the highest OL grade yesterday.

LOL, it reminds me of how they rated J'Marcus Webb as one of the best OL

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 15:10:38 GMT -6

Post by motm on Nov 28, 2016 15:10:38 GMT -6

Nov 28, 2016 11:55:40 GMT -6 JABF said:

I agree with this. People who don't believe we need to sign Jeffery amaze me. We need a "real" wide receiver. Not the wannabee's we watched yesterday.

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Drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery

CHICAGO -- Maybe Alshon Jeffery’s critics will soften their stance after Sunday.

When Jeffery’s surprising (and disappointing) four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s PED policy was announced two weeks ago, it caused an angry backlash.

Some suggested the Bears should simply wash their hands of Jeffery and let him walk in the offseason. Others said Jeffery can no longer be trusted after he took what he described as a “recommended supplement.”

Look, Jeffery made a stupid mistake. Professional athletes are responsible for what goes into their bodies, and Jeffery is paying a steep price. He will forfeit $3.435 million worth of his 2017 salary.

But did you watch Sunday's game against the Titans? The Bears dropped eight passes -- seven by their receivers, according to ESPN Stats & Information. The eight tied for the most by any team in the last 10 years, according to ESPN Stats & Info.

Marquess Wilson can't hold on to a pass in the end zone, one of numerous drops by Bears receivers in Sunday's loss to the Titans. Dennis Wierzbicki/USA TODAY Sports

Forget about Jeffery -- how can any of the Bears’ current receivers be trusted?

The miscues were endless, and they happened at the most inopportune times. It’s easy to pile up gaudy statistics when games are seemingly out of reach, but a professional athlete’s true character is revealed in crunch time. The Bears’ wideouts fumbled away numerous chances to stun the Titans, who had no answer for red-hot Matt Barkley in the fourth quarter.

Barkley put the ball on the money, and his receivers folded. That's the story of the game.

This brings us back to Jeffery.

Jeffery is 26 years old with 292 receptions for 4,358 yards and 25 touchdowns.

He is light years ahead of Marquess Wilson, Josh Bellamy, Deonte Thompson, Eddie Royal (toe injury), Kevin White (injured reserve) and Cameron Meredith.

Now, Meredith looks the part. He's a keeper. Meredith did not play well against the Titans -- two catches for 19 yards on nine targets -- but he's shown enough to warrant future consideration. White will be on the team in 2017 because he was the seventh overall pick of the 2015 NFL draft. He’s not going anywhere, even though White’s availability will again be a major storyline next year.

But even if White stays healthy (a big “if”) in 2017, the Bears need more than two receivers.

How are the Bears better without Jeffery?

Why would a team with so many holes create another one if it doesn’t have to?

Don’t scoff at using the franchise tag again. ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported on Sunday the Redskins intend to tag quarterback Kirk Cousins for another year if they cannot sign him to a multiyear deal. That remains an option for the Bears if they still feel unsure about Jeffery.

But 2017 is shaping up to be a make-or-break season for everyone in the building. Why would the Bears chase off their best playmaker on offense? Sunday reaffirmed there is no one in place to fill Jeffery’s shoes.

How are the bears better with AJ.?Its not like AJ has been very lack luster this season. Oh wait he has...

Its not like AJ attempted to cheat. Oh wait he has...

AJ has yet to prove his difference making ability without Brandon Marshall covering his ass.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Nov 28, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -6

motm now this is starting to be a bit right? You cannot have watched yesterdays game and thought, man thank God AJ isn't out there. Alshon has 1 drop on the year. The WR's had 10 yesterday. The Bears are better WITH AJ then w/out, and it's not even close.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 15:19:05 GMT -6

Post by motm on Nov 28, 2016 15:19:05 GMT -6

Nov 28, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

motm now this is starting to be a bit right? You cannot have watched yesterdays game and thought, man thank God AJ isn't out there. Alshon has 1 drop on the year. The WR's had 10 yesterday. The Bears are better WITH AJ then w/out, and it's not even close.

Have you not watched this season? AJ has been very lackluster all year. Who knows why? Many were blaming it on Hoyer but even when Cutler came back he still isn't going up in numbers. Something is up. Is it the play calling? Is AJ playing hurt and cheated to stay playing? or is AJ really not that good?

So many questions but no real answers.

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drop, drop, drop, drop, drop ... Bears need Alshon Jeffery Nov 28, 2016 15:32:14 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Nov 28, 2016 15:32:14 GMT -6

Nov 28, 2016 15:10:38 GMT -6 motm said:

Nov 28, 2016 11:55:40 GMT -6 JABF said:

I agree with this. People who don't believe we need to sign Jeffery amaze me. We need a "real" wide receiver. Not the wannabee's we watched yesterday.

How are the bears better with AJ.?Its not like AJ has been very lack luster this season. Oh wait he has...

Its not like AJ attempted to cheat. Oh wait he has...

AJ has yet to prove his difference making ability without Brandon Marshall covering his ass.

I just want to see the team win again. Watching the wannabee WR's is pretty ugly. AJ has incredible talent. That's just my opinion. And frankly, I really don't care if a player is Jack-the-Ripper or a choir boy - if he can catch a football, it's all "good" as far as I'm concerned.

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Post by riczaj01 on Nov 28, 2016 13:32:47 GMT -6

Post by jamaisvu on Nov 28, 2016 13:38:06 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Nov 28, 2016 13:43:32 GMT -6

Post by jamaisvu on Nov 28, 2016 13:53:34 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Nov 28, 2016 13:57:48 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Nov 28, 2016 14:25:17 GMT -6

Post by motm on Nov 28, 2016 15:10:38 GMT -6

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Post by motm on Nov 28, 2016 15:19:05 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Nov 28, 2016 15:32:14 GMT -6