I'm pretty disappointed in general, in general manager Pace. His drafts and FA(for def) are solid, and that's what this team needed, but he has done more to damage the O then help it w/how he's handled the draft and FA since he's been here. Slauson, Bennett, Forte, Marshal all are starters on this roster, before the injuries. Larsen, Whitehair, nor Grasu are beating him at LG or OC. We are learning real quick that w/out a back like Forte, the idea of getting short yardage/goalline plays is still near impossible w/that OL(not always Forte's fault even though people still claim it was), but they are limited in this ability to make something happen between the 10's.
I didn't think bringing in Fox was a good move, but I at least understood it, but I was really worried that he was go back to Lovie ball where the O wouldn't matter; and it sure to hell seems like that's what he did. And the D isn't far enough along to play that style; nor is it a good way to win and win long term.
I'm going to go out on a limb here. There was no obvious issues with talent on Forte nor Bennett. My guess is that the issues were perceived (or real -- I sure don't know) locker room issues and that the moves were driven more through Fox. Pace of course is the guy who actually makes the moves but I think Fox drove them. JMO
I'm pretty disappointed in general, in general manager Pace. His drafts and FA(for def) are solid, and that's what this team needed, but he has done more to damage the O then help it w/how he's handled the draft and FA since he's been here. Slauson, Bennett, Forte, Marshal all are starters on this roster, before the injuries. Larsen, Whitehair, nor Grasu are beating him at LG or OC. We are learning real quick that w/out a back like Forte, the idea of getting short yardage/goalline plays is still near impossible w/that OL(not always Forte's fault even though people still claim it was), but they are limited in this ability to make something happen between the 10's.
I didn't think bringing in Fox was a good move, but I at least understood it, but I was really worried that he was go back to Lovie ball where the O wouldn't matter; and it sure to hell seems like that's what he did. And the D isn't far enough along to play that style; nor is it a good way to win and win long term.
I'm going to go out on a limb here. There was no obvious issues with talent on Forte nor Bennett. My guess is that the issues were perceived (or real -- I sure don't know) locker room issues and that the moves were driven more through Fox. Pace of course is the guy who actually makes the moves but I think Fox drove them. JMO
That might be true, but Forte was considered THE leader in the locker room; even when they had Marshal who was prone to flip out, he'd back down to Forte. If there was issue it was w/him not being 100% football, ie wanting a contract. If Fox cannot handle that then he's not near the coach many thought they were getting. It's not like they had Ray McDonald or Terrell Owens on this roster(even w/Bennett). Many had a large issue w/Trestman and Emery's inability to handle "nfl personalities" well it seems Pace and Fox cannot handle them either.
Yep. He's got a long way to go and I don't want to read yet another interview with him this week where he critiquing himself for it. I want to see him doing it. It's like these guys say and do the right things all week in practice then get in a game and look like they've never played football before. He wasn't within 10 yards of that guy who made an almost falling down catch o a poorly thrown desperation air ball. He should have been able to pick that one off and walk to he end zone for 6 points. That's just ridiculous stuff period.
On that particular play, Hall: A) failed to make what should have been an easy pick B) committed an obvious DPI which wasn't called because it was a blowout preseason game AND C) still managed to give up a 1st down catch on a 3rd and long duck pass
Yep. He's got a long way to go and I don't want to read yet another interview with him this week where he critiquing himself for it. I want to see him doing it. It's like these guys say and do the right things all week in practice then get in a game and look like they've never played football before. He wasn't within 10 yards of that guy who made an almost falling down catch o a poorly thrown desperation air ball. He should have been able to pick that one off and walk to he end zone for 6 points. That's just ridiculous stuff period.
That's pretty much the trifecta of SUCK
I am a simple person. This concept intrigues me. I never even knew there was a trifecta of suck. This board always opens my eyes to new things.
The defense will be okay I think. The starting offense looks like a clown show right now. And the problems go beyond the OL right now. This was supposed to be the "dress rehearsal" game for the season. The starting O looks pretty bad.
You can't win games with 3-and-outs on offense. Hard for a D to overcome that.
Yep. If Loggains is such a demanding OC then he needs to either demand some guy get their heads out of their asses and into the game or send a few packing as a way of firing a warning shot over the bow of those who remain. This is pathetic offensive football.
They just looked like a rag-tag bunch of bumbling fools today. Can't block. Can't catch. Can't throw. And a grand total of 18 yards total offense for our starters in that first half. It puts extra stress on our defense too. The 3-and-outs are a killer. It looked like our D starters were getting winded out there.
I know one thing. I sure am getting tired of crap Bears seasons. And it looks like this will be another one. The long-suffering Chicago Bears fans deserve better than this. They really do.
The defense will be okay I think. The starting offense looks like a clown show right now. And the problems go beyond the OL right now. This was supposed to be the "dress rehearsal" game for the season. The starting O looks pretty bad.
You can't win games with 3-and-outs on offense. Hard for a D to overcome that.
Yep. If Loggains is such a demanding OC then he needs to either demand some guy get their heads out of their asses and into the game or send a few packing as a way of firing a warning shot over the bow of those who remain. This is pathetic offensive football.
Quite frankly, Loggains is one person that I am wondering about. So far the O does not look like its clicking. At all
I understood the trade and pick at the time, but ya right now it's looking like a really poor move. I'm just starting to grow tired of Pace making way for his unproven draft picks to move into the starting spots w/out earning it. It's something that bothered me about Emery also.
It's in the past now and we can't fix today or tomorrow by looking at yesterday. It probably bears repeating to say again that no team Brandon Marshall has played for has ever been a winner so whether you have him or you don't the results wouldn't be much different. We didn't win anything with both BM and AJ when we had both of them on the field so why should we believe we would now.
He was an expensive option who was wearing out his welcome like he's done after three years with every team he's ever played with starting here in Denver where the Donkey's never won anything when he was here either. I think they've been much happier with Demaryius Thomas whose pretty much a BM clone. And based on his lectures to the Jets front office on how they needed to re-sign Fitzy my guess is they aren't real thrilled with his big mouth right now either.
White's a rookie just playing his first games. Dial up the way back machine and go back and look at AJs rookie game films or BM's and you'd see much the same. Give it time.
I hope you're right, Soul, and yeah I know it's way too soon to panic on White. But holy shit he looks unimpressive thus far. Lot of sloppy cuts and butterfingers. Don't know if you saw Cutler's press conference afterwards--Jay tactfully called him out a little. Words to the effect of: "rookie mistakes are gonna happen but they can't keep happening". Sounded like a hint that White needs to get his head out of his ass, focus, and work harder.
Yep. If Loggains is such a demanding OC then he needs to either demand some guy get their heads out of their asses and into the game or send a few packing as a way of firing a warning shot over the bow of those who remain. This is pathetic offensive football.
They just looked like a rag-tag bunch of bumbling fools today. Can't block. Can't catch. Can't throw. And a grand total of 18 yards total offense for our starters in that first half. It puts extra stress on our defense too. The 3-and-outs are a killer. It looked like our D starters were getting winded out there.
I know one thing. I sure am getting tired of crap Bears seasons. And it looks like this will be another one. The long-suffering Chicago Bears fans deserve better than this. They really do.
They had - 7 yards passing in the first half....how the #@&% do you do that!